New Site - Pay or No?

[rogerd]

I've got a newish site with a couple of hundred pages of unique content. I've submitted the home page and some other key pages to Ink partners. No paid inclusion yet, though.

I recall some earlier posts that suggested paying for including some pages might suppress spidering of non-paid pages. What I am seeing now is that Slurp comes by daily to check my robots.txt file and home page, but goes no farther. The site has great internal linkage. There are some quality external links, mostly to the home page.

I'm getting a bit bored with Slurp only hitting the home page. I'm considering paying for some other pages, but I probably can't justify more than a handful on economic grounds. Ideally, of course, I'd like to see the whole site get spidered.

My options seem to include: 1) Do nothing and wait, since Ink seems to know where the site is; 2) Do free submittals of a few more pages, or all pages over time; 3) Set up some deep links on other sites I control and hope that Ink follows them; 4)Pay for inclusion of a few key pages, either important keyword pages or important navigation pages (i.e., home pages of subdirectories). Any sage advice?

[minnapple]

A. Construct a few doorways pages.
B. Purchase one or more url for inclusion (spidering).
C. Switch the url every 7 days.
D. Record the hits per url.
E. Do a ROI on each url.
F. Improve the top performers.
G. Retest or pay for multiple inclusion.

I always keep and extra "pay for page" available for testing new pages.

[Robert Charlton]

>>Do free submittals of a few more pages, or all pages over time<<

Earlier in the year, I would have said that this was a way to go... at least for pages with external links... if you could wait a couple of months, which is what it was taking.

I haven't gotten a new site listed for free since April, though. I guess they figure if service is bad enough, we'll pay. Has anyone gotten a new site listed more recently?

Sites that were already in the public index that I've updated are getting revised and re-indexed very quickly. I don't know about hundreds of pages, though... sites this large are one of the reasons, I'm sure, that Inktomi decided to go the PPI route.

[newbie_doo]

Thanks for dropping science on the pay for inclusion strategy Minn, but I am still really confused.

A&B are easy enough, but..

C. Switch the url every 7 days...Do you mean switch doorways at the same url, or register a completely new url?

D. Record the hits per url.

E. Do a ROI on each url - what is an ROI?

F. Improve the top performers - I'm assuming you mean figure out which of the doorway templates you are using are working the best?

G. Retest or pay for multiple inclusion. - How many different templates would you recommend testing before paying to include say 10 or 15 pages?

Your knowledge and wisdom are appreciated!

[tigger]

Hi newbie_doo & welcome to WmW

I think what minnapple was referring to >C. Switch the URL every 7 days. Is to submit a paid page once that page has been spidered and within the results switch to another using the free switch/swap that I believe most of the inclusion companies allow.

I use PT and this did work for a while not anymore and I would presume the other inclusion providers have also released this once you switch the page the listing will vanish when the next spidering doesn’t happen

>what is an ROI? = return on investment

Rather than doing multiple pages (and cost) just produce a couple of doorways, name them so you can track what’s coming from ink, monitor the rankings and change your algo's around to get the best results (this is a lot easer if you're only having to change one or two pages) once you have a good listing you can then produce other optimised pages.

Have fun :)