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If I have a site of 100+ pages, all of which need to be catalogued this seems like financial suicide.
What happens if I let the site get spidered free, and then pay for one page to get in - are the others affected at all?
>What happens if I let the site get spidered free?
The site will be buried.
The problem is that many of the pages on this site have hardly any optimised competition - therefore shouldn't be buried.
For example, if the site is selling hi-fi equipment (it isn't, example only), the pages that I need indexing should be catching traffic for phrases such as 'Bloggs RA25X Speakers'.
All the pages are static and full of content about the relevant product. Each may only get a few hits a day but over the few hundred pages it adds up to significant numbers of highly relevant traffic.
I get rafts of traffic from Google this way, but hardly any from Inktomi engines coz they won't touch the pages that haven't been paid.
I have some sites where it is worth waiting to see if Goo gets me in before paying for the 'tough' pages.
Has anyone had an site catalogued free and later paid for some pages, if so what happened to your current unpaid ones?
Also of course get your flexible friend out
You could also try getting a site to link to you that’s already in the main inktmoi db, I've had some success with that but it takes time
That is what I did with the current site. We have paid for the ten most crucial competetive themed pages, but got nowhere on Inktomi with the other 190 pages.
I guess the tactic ahould be to build a ten page feeder site, which we put in Inktomi, and keep the other one to try for a free listing.
So - assuming you have a paid page in Inktomi and you withdraw it, is the balance of your site now up for free submission (via Goo) or is it still blocked?
I will run a trial, but if anyone knows already, please let us know.
One tip don't submit the index to PT for some reason it won't get ranked very well
We paid for 15 pages from a site selling a range products from a particular manufacturer.
Lots of competition for the key phrases 'manufacturer productname'
The index page got No1 on one of the phrases, but not the one for which it was optimised. It actually beat the real optimised page for this phrase.
Hmm, I thought, maybe my view of the Ink Algo needs an update. So I took the main index as a model and reoptimised some of the others along the same lines - worse results.
Could it be that Ink uses a different algo on Index pages?
I've found that if I submit the index page (paid) it doesn’t rank well, but use a link from an old site that’s already in the Db and it will eventually rank and normally quite well.
Fun & games!
Just got a new customer, his site is in inktomi but totally unoptimised.
I need to fix the whole site, but then want paid entry on three of the pages.
Is this going to cause problems for the non-paid pages that are already in Inktomi?
I seem to remember reading that they still OK, but does anyone have any real life experience of this?
I've clients that have both paid optimised and free listing in Ink, one client has got a very competitive search term in that I can't get any near with my optimised paid page's very odd
Is there only you and me here?
Turn the lights off when you go :)
have a good weekend
Got lots of lovely optimisations to work on over the weekend
Sad really - should get out more.
Really do need to get out a LOT more!
After my disastrous week (lost some major keywords from google) I'm looking forward to turning the PC OFF (god I can't believe I said that) probably going to lock-up now!
My optimisation this weekend will involve a wire brush, galloons of whitewash and me up a ladder all weekend, not that unlike my normal working week really.
Inktomi forum now turning off.... :)
