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2:48 am on Jan 3, 2008 (gmt 0)

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Anyone else? We are seeing SERP updates for
our site finally after the lest debacle that
occurred in October. Things appear on the mend.
4:59 am on Jan 3, 2008 (gmt 0)

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Not me, not yet.

I'm a relative noob at this, but my eyes have been quickly opened about how bad live search is.

For example: a site is for a laundry service in Lancaster SC.

If the website uses S.C. (with periods) a query using SC (no periods) won't find it. Using Google, a query for "drive to my job laundry in Lancaster SC" will find relevant results even if it appears S.C. on the website.

5:24 pm on Jan 4, 2008 (gmt 0)

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I'm seeing a tiny amount of additional spidering, but no additional listings at this point. These are sites that once ranked very well and were close to fully indexed, only to drop back to ONE listing each after the October disaster. We can only hope that with a new year the team at MS will at least make some effort to restore the current disappointing status quo at LIVE to something close to respectable. They were on the right path at one time, but then fell off a cliff, and have not been heard from since.

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4:49 pm on Jan 11, 2008 (gmt 0)

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Does anyone see an update going on! It looks like a big change in my niche..
5:35 am on Feb 4, 2008 (gmt 0)

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A couple days ago I hit the jackpot. Let's hope this continues. I don't know much about MSN ranking, so don't ask me how.

p/g

3:13 pm on Feb 4, 2008 (gmt 0)

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Ack... one of my U.S. sites dropped completely off the map for a two word term.

Now the top 10 have stuff from overseas. Like - "Yeah... I'm going to order my _____ from Australia... COME ON!"

;)

2:25 pm on Feb 6, 2008 (gmt 0)

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Are their crawlers still alive, I don't see any crawling activity at all.

How can a search engine update an index without crawling?

2:48 pm on Feb 6, 2008 (gmt 0)

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Yes, there DEFINITELY was an update across the board from what I am seeing. I have to give them credit, they ARE getting better seems like...
4:16 pm on Feb 6, 2008 (gmt 0)

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Hope they merge with Yahoo but keep their own algorithm as I could use a traffic boost.
4:30 pm on Feb 6, 2008 (gmt 0)

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I do too, Yahoo!'s search needs to be put in the graveyard for sure. It's just plain junk. MSN will probably get them...unless Google thwarts is somehow...
4:56 pm on Feb 6, 2008 (gmt 0)

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Still the same crap - keyword in domain has waaaaaay to much relevance. Personally I'd devalue rankings a little because of this, not the otherway around.

MSN still needs mucho work.

5:37 pm on Feb 6, 2008 (gmt 0)

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msn.com or live.com?

msn.com : seems to be all ok, just like I expect from the other search engines.

live.com: site nowhere to be found, so I guess it's still the geotargeting of servers at work there.

Anyway, will be changing the geolocation of the server to work around stupidity of trying to geotarget servers.

5:59 pm on Feb 6, 2008 (gmt 0)

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Pitiful results.

Every time I look at MSN.com or one of it's localised versions, it seems to get worse.

Still the same crap - keyword in domain has waaaaaay to much relevance. Personally I'd devalue rankings a little because of this, not the otherway around.

True, though there are so many things wrong with it besides that.

One easy thing to fix is to put a "Live.com in English" link on the homepage, when they try to force a localised version onto me. Google always have a "Google.com in English" link.

The UK results are hilarious, just look at them - words escape me.

I noticed 2 competitors that have gone out of business in the last few weeks are doing well for a very competitive term, maybe MSN doesn't send any decent traffic anymore?

7:54 pm on Feb 6, 2008 (gmt 0)

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I must have crappy sites; I'm doing pretty well...
9:31 pm on Feb 6, 2008 (gmt 0)

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keyword in domain has waaaaaay to much relevance.

Hey keep it down will ya, they might be listening!

11:42 pm on Feb 6, 2008 (gmt 0)

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improvements for both our main sites this week.

Obviously, i'm in the "they're doing well" camp.

1:43 am on Feb 7, 2008 (gmt 0)

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I haven't paid very much attention to Live search, since I build my sites with the bigger search engine in mind, but what I can say is that the results seem a little odd for my particular sites.

On one site the stumbleupon rankings float off my domain name onto a site two or three spots above mine in the rankings (in Google) has started doing the same thing with MSN Live as of two weeks ago.

The other oddity is that MSN live didn't rank this site well on its main keyword (by not well I mean page 5-6 in the serps) while Google has had it on page on for a very long time. Now, MSN Live has bumped it to page one as well.

Do Google and MSN Live share ANY data between each other?

2:49 pm on Feb 7, 2008 (gmt 0)



what if you update and no one cares? :)

If this was G, it would have been 6 pages long by now.

5:27 pm on Feb 7, 2008 (gmt 0)

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sigh...

It looks like the results are getting better because....
It looks like the results are worse because...
I think the movement I saw up or down was because...

I wish people would contribute to an update thread with some sort of purpose, clarity and use.

10:43 pm on Feb 7, 2008 (gmt 0)

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What I think happened with this thread is that it was originally posted several weeks ago <2:48 am on Jan. 3, 2008> and then yesterday when it all of a sudden hit the main page at WebMasterWorld it started up again for no apparent reason.

[edited by: DannyTweb at 10:44 pm (utc) on Feb. 7, 2008]

11:30 pm on Feb 11, 2008 (gmt 0)

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A lot of the ranking changes that I saw for the keywords I was tracking seemed to have reverted back to there previous state.
11:41 pm on Feb 25, 2008 (gmt 0)

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"I wish people would contribute to an update thread with some sort of purpose, clarity and use."

It looks like the results are getting better because.... my sites rank higher now!
It looks like the results are worse because... my sites rank lower now!
I think the movement I saw up or down was because... the gods are vengeful yet kind.

The only good search engine is the one that has all of my sites at number 1

There have been no updates just a few sites bouncing up and down as tweeks are made.

5:49 am on Mar 11, 2008 (gmt 0)

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No serp updates but suddenly lots of crawling, several per second on one site. About 25,000 requests yesterday.
 

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