need help with indexing my site in msn

[mydomainoffer]

I need help with indexing my site in msn. My site currently have about 7000 pages in google but i am NOT able to get this site index in live or msn. it is only indexing 2-3 pages. please let me know how i can improve my site so that it get index by msn.

thanks

[sim0n20]

I have the exact same problem, about 5000 pages inedex in google and about 50 in msn, msnbot has visited my site a few hundred times in the last few days, does anyone else have the same problem, my site is about 5months old.

Cheers Simon

[lohia anirudh]

I have more than 7000 page indexed in google, ranking in top 15 for main keyword but MSN is not indexing my site. My log files shows that MSN bot visit my site everyday. There seems to be a serious problem with MSN.

Anirudh

[Achernar]

Same here. 35000+ pages indexed by google, 24000 by yahoo, 21 by MSN.
But it doesn't prevent msnbot from frequently hammering my site.
I was once at 12000 pages indexed in january, for only 2 weeks, then it regularly dropped by 30%-50% every 2 weeks.

[Fish_Texas]

Hope this helps...
Yes, MSN has indexing problems, however, if you are losing pages it could be a KW density issue. In Aug of 2006 MSN's new Algo reduced KW density in Description Meta tags and page body to rock bottom to reduce KW spamming.

If you are ranking well in G...I wouldn't touch a thing yet. I hear MSN will be developing a new Algo, which brings us back to square one. Who knows what the new Algo will like or dislike.

If you depend on most of your traffic from MSN, I'd lower KW density and test a few pages. After making changes, you should resubmit those pages for a quicker crawl. Otherwise for the present, all we can do is wait until MSN gets its act together. They do know they have a problem.
Fish Texas

[Achernar]

I'm not using description and keyword meta tags, and page text is not optimized for any keyword algorithm.
I hope that one day MSN algo will work better.

In fact, the site was well indexed in early january, so unless they had a algo modification at that time...

[edited by: Achernar at 3:47 pm (utc) on June 7, 2007]

[Fish_Texas]

Achernar..."I'm not using description and keyword meta tags, and page text is not optimized for any keyword algorithm"

There is your problem with no listings on MSN... IMHO

[Achernar]

This still doen't explain why I was poorly indexed (+/-200), then indexed with over 10000 pages (+/-500 added each week) for about 1-2 months, then getting poorly indexed again.

And, the content on all the pages is self explanatory : indexed pages have snippets extracted from the body.

[Fish_Texas]

MSN Search is all over the place these days.
Sites are here today and gone tomorrow then come back later.

But IMHO, without relevant keywords on the page, no page description meta tags, no optimization, how do you expect MSNBot to find you?

Do you even have Meta Tags?
Do you have index/follow in a meta tag?

Fish Texas

[Achernar]

But IMHO, without relevant keywords on the page, no page description meta tags, no optimization, how do you expect MSNBot to find you?

Just like millions of pages that are actually indexed by msn without resorting to these practices.

The fact is that, unless I replicate the entire content in a meta tag, which is counter-intuitive, there is no way I can put relevant (and non-duplicate) information in these tags. I don't have the resources to edit by hand 25000+ pages.

I use meta KW and desc on the index page, which has no clearly indexable content. Since msnbot doesn't understand wildcard matching in robots.txt, I also use 'meta name="robots"' one some pages to prevent indexing of duplicate content.