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You may think MSN may like freshness from this but haven't changed anything since and remain solid. MSN doesn't return enough traffic to bother with anyway. At least in my little places online.
oh...and in comparison..over 700 clicks on my google PPC last month...2 from MSN....you can plainly see that no one uses it to search nearly as much as G and Yahoo.
When you remove all SEO and focus all on user end, you get dropped to page 20. When you get more links, you seem to get penalized in some fashion.
I dont focus on traffic from MSN anymore, and would agree that things have gone downhill since the Update in August.
DON'T over optimize Meta Tags or Page Body...
choose 3 or 4 KW's in your Description and use no more than 2 times...all others 1 time.
Use the same KW's for page body and keep in the 3% range. All other page body KW's keep at 1% to 2%.
Yahoo also seems to like this density...traffic has increased.
Google is not a big traffic generator for us yet, so I can't say.
If Google is your main SE with plenty of traffic, I wouldn't touch a thing, however if MSN and Yahoo are your main SE's...the above worked well for us.
Hope this helps.
Perhaps the trick is to almost but not quite optimise for Google.