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How about a comment MSNDude.
Fish Texas
I see sooo much of this spammer right now. On one hand, I really am impressed with him/her. On the other, please...blogspot probably isn't the most relevant result 8/10 times for a phrase on a single SERP.
Question: Does the quality of the SERPs improve when you filter out large subdomain hosted sites (like blogspot) when querying against the commerical indicator? If a phrase is >X% liklihood of being commerical, then one of those subdomain sites is more likely to be spam -- I'd be curious as to the results of that. Undoubtedly a few false positives, but I'd have to think it'd really clean things up.
Cygnus
From a marketing angle - in terms of cleaning up the search results - I would definitely think they it would only be a WIN to simply exclude blogspot pages from showing up in the top rankings for any search. Meanwhile in the lab they can keep working on a more elegant solution.
I really think this is a case where the marketers /PR folks need to overule the techs.
when it comes to quality serp results, best algo is not necessarily best for users.
I see sooo much of this spammer right now. On one hand, I really am impressed with him/her. On the other, please...blogspot probably isn't the most relevant result 8/10 times for a phrase on a single SERP.
I may not know about the spammer that you guys are talking about, but I have to say that things sure have gotten stale since mid-summer. There were loads of very impressive improvements, then they stopped. They stopped just short of getting rid of the "junk" splogs.
Hopefully things will be picking up here soon, with the holidays just around the corner.
Suddomain problems still exist, etc, and they still have virtually zero recognition of authority (trivial domains outranking industry leaders with better quality info) but they are way better than four months ago.
Maybe I haven't found it yet, but lots of people have asked this question "what happened to our site in MSN, we got wiped out?", and I haven't seen you answer or mention anything.
If you've lost most of our pages, did we trip a new filter? Did you lose a bunch of servers? What?
The biggest issue I see is that when updates are done, sites that previously ranked high in MSN 'seem' to be tossed and new ones take their place. It would be frustrating for a surfer who expects to see some consistency.
If a site is not valuable enough to a surfer to be in the first 5 pages yesterday, and without anything being changed is now listed 5th on page one, that's inconsistency.
Still much work to be done...
[edited by: CainIV at 5:54 pm (utc) on Oct. 6, 2006]
We've been contending with a few mega spammers lately, and that's probably causing more instability than usual. Apologies for the inconvenience.
It seems to me that the collection of smaller spammers might be greater than the effect of one or two mega spammers. The serps are really getting muddied up by splogs right now. Really need to get something out soon to allow for an algorithmic elimination of this spam.
The only thing I can think of for top rank of so many splogs is that their 5000 guestbook spamming backlinks are counted for a lot more than the kw density. However backlinks are only worth a limited amount on MSN
since many high ranking sites just have a handful of backlinks..
Life would be even duller if I spent more than five seconds thinking about keyword density, especially with MSN where what matters is links and keyword left of the tld.
