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New MSN Search is LIVE

We are seeing a rollout of MSN new search

         

drdsl2000

3:20 pm on Jan 14, 2005 (gmt 0)

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It looks like it might be tied into their lateset Windows update.

Results look very good so far, Look out Google!

AND THERE WAS THREE

The Dr

mikec

2:36 pm on Jan 19, 2005 (gmt 0)



for those asking, "why hasn't msn promoted this launch more?" why? because it's not a launch..duh! it's still in beta. they're still in BETA. While some who's sites are finally doing well in an engine are all giddy and would love to see ms promote the msn search more, it's not going to happen. Well, let me rephrase, it's not going to happen to the team at msn feels the engine is ready. Right now, it is not ready for a complete launch. People are getting results from msn beta now, (certain areas, certain browsers) for testing reasons.

xcomm

2:42 pm on Jan 19, 2005 (gmt 0)

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certain areas, certain browsers

I wet it will move over to beta all over the world in the next hours.

xcomm

2:45 pm on Jan 19, 2005 (gmt 0)

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for those asking, "why hasn't msn promoted this launch more?"

Or maybe they trust their usual ways to enter new markets using their well known monopol on the desktop and will set MSNBeta as default search for Joe Average?

Lawnboyronmiller

2:58 pm on Jan 19, 2005 (gmt 0)

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i think the new msn results are very good.. and no its not because all of our sites rank well, because they dont. Like all search engines its a mixed bag of results.

the results in beta format are as good / better then the inktomi feed... especially considering inktomi has been doing search only for around what almost 10 years.

COnsidering the enormous task of building a search engine, Id give the msn search team 2 thumbs up... good job guys.

dvduval

3:00 pm on Jan 19, 2005 (gmt 0)

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While some who's sites are finally doing well in an engine are all giddy and would love to see ms promote the msn search more, it's not going to happen.

No wishful thinking going on here. It has already happened. I've got a huge increase in referals. I've verified with many people across the USA, and they are all seeing the results. I think they are at least 90% rolled out.

We've also heard from Microsoft employees who have verified they are moving forward, and that promotion of the new engine will begin in February. Granted, it is unofficial, but multiple Microsoft employees have said the same thing.

inbound

3:56 pm on Jan 19, 2005 (gmt 0)

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MSN (UK) toolbar for IE is serving beta results.

I wonder if anyone has stats on the percentage of searches done through the toolbar?

ichthyous

3:59 pm on Jan 19, 2005 (gmt 0)

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I have a question...when I type in "site:www.mysite.com" into msn I first get back "1-10 of 3,240"...then at around page 5 of results it suddenly says "50-60 of 1,010"...then as I hit page 15 or so it says "150-160 of 210" and page 21 is the last page of results. So how many pages are actually indexed from my site, and how do I see them ALL through MSN?

BillyS

4:19 pm on Jan 19, 2005 (gmt 0)

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have a question...when I type in "site:www.mysite.com" into msn I first get back "1-10 of 3,240"...then at around page 5 of results it suddenly says "50-60 of 1,010"...then as I hit page 15 or so it says "150-160 of 210" and page 21 is the last page of results. So how many pages are actually indexed from my site, and how do I see them ALL through MSN?

I see the same thing, looks like a bug to me. I am in the camp that this is still a beta test. Complex queries make no sense at all. When they go live, it is my bet that these beta results will not stick.

newwebster

4:57 pm on Jan 19, 2005 (gmt 0)

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MSN beta search is too gereral and lacks razor sharp results for more specific search queries. Their algo is favoring a general page that links out to the more relevent specific page that would be right on target for the specific search query. This is bad flaw as this will make their end users do more hunting for what they are looking for. I am not talking about even competitive phrases here either. Irregardless of how MSN appoints pages as authoritive or not, delivering the results whereby end users can find what they are looking for quickly should be their goal. This will be one of the ways that they can get people to continue to use their engine. They need to tweek this thing out and get it right or else people will not see an advantage to using their web results.

webhound

4:59 pm on Jan 19, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Well now that they are clearly integrating the BETA into live results, does anyone have any idea of the refresh frequency? Time to start tweakin the MSN sites.
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