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Results look very good so far, Look out Google!
AND THERE WAS THREE
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Why? because many of the "authority" sites in my area, as far as G and Y are concerned, are dated, stale, and suckling off their former glory.
Having a new engine come along and shake things up is a good thing. M$ isn't my favorite organisation around, but that's irelevant. I wish a "Big New Engine" would launch with new algos, new results, and big fanfare once a year.
It would do much to democratise the web.
Any time something as keystone as a Search Engine (or an Operating system, for that matter) becomes too dominant, the tech and the flow of information suffers. It would be like saying 1 librarian gets to determine what books an entire nation gets to access.
Competition is good. Monopolies and Oligarchies are bad. Deal with it.
If a person is too dumb to not be able to be objective, they deserve whatever happens.
You don't see any irony in your comment, do you Steveb...? ;-)
I guess you 'deserve whatever happens'...
Competition is good. Monopolies and Oligarchies are bad. Deal with it."
That's about as clear and concise a summary of it as you can make. You can see this easily on these forums, just compare the size of the google forum with the yahoo or msn one. Google is too dominant currently, and dictate far too much of how you create your pages and content, and everything around that, even though they always say, make it for the visitor, not the search engine, which if you followed that rule you'd be doing pretty poorly as a rule. Maybe with 3 real search engines, plus any others that might hopefully come along, we can now actually focus more on this, and less on what's wrong with any one particular engine this month.
"If a person is too dumb to not be able to be objective"
That's a tricky statement, sometimes I like steveb's postings, sometimes not, but today it really looks like he's not having a very good day. Very few people are able to be 'objective', it's a talent you don't see very often, and may not even be technically or humanly possible. Some, many, dumb people are much better at being objective than many smart people, simply because they don't let ideas get in the way of seeing what's in front of their noses.
M$ with its financial power can easily break this entry barrier and "provided" they further improve their algorithm to fight spam and recognize quality content, they will have what is required to take Google head-on.
I use Google, mainly for the reason that it has the freshest data, not mainly because it has the best ranking algo. Sandbox? You can deal with it by using creative search terms, such as allin...
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Sites from different countries mixed up together even with a specific country search.
Keyword stacked domain names take precedence over better sites.
Not good and will lead to MSN going downhill.
All those who say it's fresh and fastastic are probably those with poor or average sites who have been bumped to the top above the better sites under this ridiculous algo.
No more money into Overture from me.
Which is why very few people control most of the Internet wealth, key search rankings, and valuable seo/marketing power.
<of course there are other reasons too but objectivity is a key one>
Thanks!
For example, in the pop culture field, hundreds of sites simply cannt be found with MSN beta ...As I said, using a two keyword search for an actress ...
On MSN beta, this actress gets only 3 results in the top 10, and the top result for her is bizarre - it's a tobacco company links page with the actress name combined with "cigar". It's gross!
It looks like we are in some same field and see the same bizarre results on MSN!
I also see mainly 2-3 sites on topic in the 1st SERP - the other sites I see are mostly not related to the topic at all. They only contain the words somewhere within but in sites from totally different 'content' areas for strange reasons.
I really appreciate the new MSN for shaking up the market but in my cultural related field it's nearly broken.
The best SE for cultural related topics at this time is Inktomi powered Yahoo!
Maybe if you look for blogs or product related money terms (I should not wonder about this or?) you may be better with M$N!
And if you look for IT problem help from forums you may still be better with G$$gle.
Try a search from the box much lower down the page, not the top box.
I started getting visitors from this today, they are easy to spot as old serps are served by uk.search.msn.com
New serps are served by search.msn.co.uk
My traffic from msn is up a lot :) having jumped from nowhere to #1 (new site but probably deserves to be top page given the content)
Good luck
Search.msn.co.jp is for example still on Yahoo yet.
