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MSN results not bad

Can't believe I am saying it!

3:11 am on Sep 12, 2006 (gmt 0)

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I have to say that in general the results are good on MSN.

I think the only thing lacking is depth of crawling so that the depth of pages can answer niche queries.

Spam - yes it's there in abundance. Google - yes it not only has spam problems but crawling is so shallow it is the new Altavista, what the hell why not use sitemaps (i.e. can't crawl need you to help!). Yahoo - poohoo, crawling is soooo shallow and depth of index makes Ask look comprehensive (but it's not!).

I am excited by what is round the corner for MSN, I like the terminology "bug fixing" etc. - it is honest, it admits that it is a piece of software that people work on and fix bugs etc.

It's like the good old days - write software, fix bugs - have users complain about bugs (admit bugs), fix bugs etc....

Now tell me where that has happened in the last 3 years with Google.

1:51 pm on Sept 12, 2006 (gmt 0)

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I think its pretty good, except for the blogspot and other redirects to fake search sites. I would think that could be fixed by having the search engine read the javascript - the redirect code is very basic.
4:15 pm on Sept 12, 2006 (gmt 0)

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I'm glad the results look good in your market. The MSN results in my market are worse than I've ever seen on any of the big three SEs. The top 3 results go:

1. total spam blogspot site
2. Huge affiliate site
3. Authority site for related terms, but not in my market

Other listings include single pages about the search terms on sites that are otherwise unrelated, a wholesale site that offers nothing but product lists and doesn't even sell to the public, a one page site that only says, click this link to our other site that is actually open among others. All those on the first two pages, the results get worse after that.

4:38 pm on Sept 12, 2006 (gmt 0)

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hmmm hey msndude, i thought you guys fixed the javascript redirect doorway page issue.

now seeing redirect page sites back in the top 10. you guys gonna fix that or should I start submitting spam reports on them?

11:20 pm on Sept 12, 2006 (gmt 0)

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surftrack: always feel free to submit reports on spam you see. If you'd like, send me a sticky with the example you're seeing. Could be we have a bug.


4:07 am on Sept 14, 2006 (gmt 0)

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I'm seeing poor results in my sector. My main site is 10 years old, hundreds of thousands of pages. My top competitors are 10, 7 and 5 years old. All of us have good content and tons of pages. There's a lot of mutual respect between us (we communicate regularly, attend the same events/shows and sit down for meals/chats when we get the chance). All if us have always been in the top 4 positions in the SERPS. MSN is now listing a new, unknown site with no history and pretty much zero content in the top position for a major keyword, followed by 5 scraper sites, and then other listings which are barely related to the keyword. The 4 of us are below all that.
3:17 pm on Sept 14, 2006 (gmt 0)

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I have noticed MSN results getting much better. Heck, even a few times better than Google! Not bad! Still have some problems to work on, but they are doing a much better job, IMHO, than Yahoo! for sure; Yahoo! is getting worse...
4:22 am on Sept 15, 2006 (gmt 0)

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yup indeed and their msn adcenter is quite nice to work with, looking good.
4:43 am on Sept 15, 2006 (gmt 0)

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I agree that the results are improving - but still far from "good". It continues to suffer from the same failures I noted many many months ago.

Maybe someday.


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