MSN algo change hurt anyone?

did the MSN algorithm change hurt anyone?

[dgrati]

The Sat algo change dropped us out of MSN for our major term. That term has been #1 on other engines and previously, MSN for months.

Did anyone observe this? Any analysis on whether the change is perm or temp?

I noticed that another of our major terms was dropped but came back yesterday..

[mjhorbal]

We went from #1 in our search term "life insurance advisors" to non-existent overnight.

The content we have runs circles around the former #2 site which is now #1.

Going to msn support is a joke.!

[mjwalshe]

I have seen a lot of my clients sites drop pages from the index and have seen some drop from p1 to p2

Hopefully msn will reindex soon.

I me not shure what the problem msoft where trying to fix was

[beren]

Of course the algo change hurt someone.

Changes always hurt some site and help other sites. Always. It's a zero-sum game. Webmasterworld always amazes me with discussions of "good" updates and "bad" updates. All updates are both good and bad.

[Garya]

Update was bad for MSN, just like the update today was bad for Yahoo.
This puts Google back on top now with more bad results.
Seems like search engine results are going down hill with results trying to fight spam.
Looks like Ask.com is doing the best right now and has good results.

[msndude]

beren: I like to think that a "good update" is one that makes our product give better results to our customers. I hope that that's the same as saying it helps good sites more than bad ones.

In that sense, it doesn't have to be a zero-sum game.

[jenniann111]

We seem to be back in, at least partially, so I'm not complaining!

[arubicus]

"it doesn't have to be a zero-sum game."

Where/Who has someone said something very similar recently...

[Erku]

We lost 80 percent of our traffic from MSN

[Erku]

Hey guys,

do you know if the updates from MSN happen once a week? Will there be another one hopefully next week? It's bleeding here...

[wrockca]

Very interesting because I have seen a huge increase of traffic and rankings for all of my sites, even the new ones.

[nickakam]

Over the past couple of weeks, my new site has become top 10 for almost every term I can think of for the site, it not top 20. Can't complain here!

[ontrack]

I was one of many hurt in the Google rankings by some kind of Google update on June 27. But my MSN rankings have gotten better, especially over the last few days. I have been told by others that they have experienced the same thing. Could there be a relationship? Doubtful, but it seems like an interesting coincedence.

[microlinx]

Apparently MSN did some kind of algo change right after Alexa & Amazon switched over to their database. My sites dropped and now the results are not very useful (not just because my sites are not there). I see many duplications and link farm sites, almost as bad as Yahoo. They also don't seem to be doing any indexing updates and it's getting very stale.
According to my server logs if 20,000 hits come from Google, then 2,000 come from Yahoo and 200 come from MSN. Is always been that way so I don't much care. I for one simple don't use their search.
I usually don't find what I'm looking for anyway.
If Microsoft's search engine is as good as it's OS, then less than perfect results should be no surprise.