Windows 10 will update whether you like it or not

unless you have Enterprise Edition

[bill]

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2015/07/16/windows_10_will_update_whether_you_like_it_or_not_unless_you_have_enterprise_edition/ [theregister.co.uk]

Windows 10 will update whether you like it or not – unless you have Enterprise Edition

The Licensing Agreement for Windows 10, as found in the latest release candidate build 10240 of Windows 10 Professional, states:

The Software periodically checks for system and app updates, and downloads and installs them for you.

You may obtain updates only from Microsoft or authorised sources, and Microsoft may need to update your system to provide you with those updates.

By accepting this agreement, you agree to receive these types of automatic updates without any additional notice

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[mcneely]

I don't think I would ever suggest that people turn their auto updates off, but then again, I have problems with the corporate attitude of literally forcing a new OS on to someone that might already be fine with what they have.

In my world tho', Windows is an inferior product - It has been for a while now - The only reason why I still have it on "one" box is because I can show clients the "difference" between Windows and other superior OS's in real time.

Microsoft sort of got themselves into this predicament with all of these so-called OS releases, and from what I can see, they are trying to get themselves out of it at our expense.

One OS across the board is what they want - Eventually, Microsoft may end up running their OS builds as an application, as opposed to anything really downloadable - imagine purchasing Windows thru' the app store for instance ... you never really ever have the core system on your local machine ... just a paid permission to use via monthly subscription. Adobe shot themselves in the foot when they did this, and I wouldn't be at all surprised to see Microsoft doing this too.

[keyplyr]

I received an email saying win10 would DL to my machine on July 29. Then I had a year to install.

[IanCP]

I have yet to be notified by email. I have no problem about downloading it...

At a time of my choosing; and

Installing at a time of my choosing.

Back to my existing Windows 10 Preview? It still insists upon trying to update at 3.30 am the next morning - that time seems to be permanently embedded into the system. Been that way for months now,

What percentage of Previewers would have their machines turned on at that ungodly hour? Is it because 3.30 am Sydney coincides with 10.30 am Seattle time? That's a good as any other rat-bag theory I can think of.

Oh well, onward and upward.

[keyplyr]

downloading it... At a time of my choosing

It DLs in the background, no big deal.

[IanCP]

It can be a big deal for those folks with bandwidth problems, or other issues they need to seriously consider.

Microsoft, or anyone else should never be in a position where they alone dictate when, only the user should be able to decide that.

[keyplyr]

You don't have to do this. This is only for people who elected to upgrade for free. M$ is not "dictating" anything.

As with all devices, software updates are rolled out over networks at prescribed times. However, you can can choose to not join the free upgrade and then go to the store and buy it, installing at your convenience.

[tangor]

^ agreed. :)

Win10 is the next gen. It uses the same hardware as Win7-8x. it is not ogre re hardware requirements. You (anyone who qualifies) has one (1) year to get the free upgrade. If you (Win7-8) did not see a get win10 app on your desktop task bar, that might be a sign that your hardware is not up to snuff and wouldn/t load 3even from a DVD (or USB as it will be sold this time around).

I have no problems with updates. Never have. None (fingers crossed) have never created a problem as I'm pretty sure that the boffins at Redmond will do all they can to make their installed base HAPPY, and borked machines won't do that.

I do understand the "I'd rather do it myself" concept. I also KNOW that few who have the concept actually make the effort to update their machines in a timely fashion, and thus open to malicious attacks while they were sleeping. And all too often that has been my CLIENTS and that wasted time just getting them back to where they should have been is a real PITA (they pay for it... but why?)

I can see that some bandwidth challenged folks might be worried, but then again, I suspect that Redmond already knows who those folks are and won't make the offer, as they did at the start of this month.

If you got the Get Win10 App (next to your clock on the taskbar), then you probably qualify. If you didn't.... then no worries about mysterious MS forces invading your PC or other device.... though I do believe they will make that offer at the download area at microsoft.com sometime after the 29th.

No on e has to play. But new systems will have Win10 so sooner or later, one joins the club.

[bill]

I have problems with the corporate attitude of literally forcing a new OS on to someone that might already be fine with what they have.

Again, MS isn't forcing 10 on anyone. The topic of this article is that after you've installed Windows 10 it will update automatically.

It can be a big deal for those folks with bandwidth problems, or other issues they need to seriously consider.

This is already built into Windows to some extent for Wifi. You can enable a metered connection for your network connection [windows.microsoft.com...] This will essentially:

• Windows Update will only download priority updates
  
• Apps from the Windows Store may pause downloads
  
• Start screen tiles may stop updating
  
• Offline files may stop syncing automatically

This won't work with a wired connection, but it could limit a lot of what may be downloaded on a WiFi-only machine. (It's not just for Windows 8. It works on some older versions too.)

[keyplyr]

BTW - It might be prudent to run a full, deep virus scan just prior to installing Win10 to ensure nothing unwanted is passed along.

[IanCP]

BTW - It might be prudent to run a full, deep virus scan just prior to installing Win10

Fully agreed. Which is why I don't agree with automatic download/install.

Somewhere I have an extensive check list I compiled in 2013 when I had my brand new custom build Desktop, and was I installing the retail upgrade version of Win 8 Pro. That included migrating three HD's across afterward, and leaving my favourite programmes to run on them. Old C drive became D and so forth. I migrated a whole heap of settings and backups of USER and Program Data. I only temporarily lost about 3 months of recent emails which I later recovered a month or so later.

The whole exercise taking several hours late one night. It worked so well like clockwork, I had to open up another bottle of cheeky red. Trust me, I was more than nervous.

Having an install when unprepared can be chaotic - it can be chaotic even when you know what you are doing.

[System]

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4:05 pm on Jul 24, 2015 (utc +1)

[mcneely]

When there's an update, MS will roll it out and you'll get it. No more opening up Windows Update and checking to see if anything new is available.

Pretty much how these Linux builds do it, 'cept in Linux, you are notified that updates are available as they become available.

I don't have a problem with that at all.

I'm left wondering though - How long one might have to wait for a patch for a known vulnerability once it's been exposed by a third party - Microsoft isn't really very known for it's prompt attention to these things.

[tangor]

But I think that is the fullsome reason for the Win10 Updates change: When something needs to be done tey do it then, right then, without waiting for a Tuesday to roll around. And also not collecting them for that release... Then again, this is a guess, not a rah-rah for MS, though I DO LIKE the update as a use of the OS as that will do more to harden the installed base than anything else. Humans are lazy, computers are machines. :)