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If you want full backups that you can store on DVD media then I suggest you look into imaging your drive(s). A drive image will take a snapshot of your drive and let you restore to that exact moment in time. Window's system restore isn't as thorough.
Some popular imaging products include Acronis and Symantec Ghost.
you are trying to do the computer equivalent of making toast with a lawnmower ..
use the right tools for the job ..and it will all go easier ..
and as Bill says leave your restore point info alone ..it can be accessed ( no I'm not telling how ..that would be irresponsible of me )..but if you fiddle with it then it's 99.9 to six places certain you'll be back posting from another machine asking how to unbork your Vista SP1 machine ..
thought of just cloning to a second HDD ..USB or whatever ?
an external one would be $59 from Wal-Mart
I don't think anyone here is going to tell a novice ( no offense ..we all were once ..but we learned in baby steps ..not by trying to run before we could walk ) how to get around doze protecting you from yourself ..It would be like telling you how to change the pads on your cars brakes via a forum thread ..fraught with peril .:)
BTW ..from where I'm posting $59.oo for an external HD is damn cheap ..spend the money :)
[edited by: Leosghost at 3:31 pm (utc) on Dec. 23, 2009]
Use a quality drive image program which copies partitions onto image files. These are much easier to maintain and archive.
Something like Macrium will do. It can image disks or drive (letters), compress the data, split into 4gb file sizes, perform full, incremental or differential backups and schedule the tasks. The backups happen on the fly so you don't need to shutdown your PC or stop working on things.
There is a free version and paid version. Both will do much better than windows own system restore point feature. Once you use disk imaging you can turn off system restore which will a) recover disk space, b) speed up your PC in some areas.
Schedule a backup task once a week onto the hard disk, overwriting anything from 3+ months. Once a month dump the latest images from ext HD onto DVD.
Anyway back to the thread. I used Macrium. Burnt five DVDs. The second disk turned out to be corrupt, and after hours of messing around I find that it would be easier for me to just save a restore point on disk and turn off "system protection". Macrium required around 13GB and a restore point is only 300MB. Microsoft seems to be a little more efficient after all and wouldn't leave me guessing if one of my 5 disks had bad sectors. (I used name brand Sony DVD-R Accucore.)
how about that "System Volume Information"?
I typed in command prompt:
Icacls "System Volume Information" /E/P 101297:F
where 101297 is my username, and I received the error message - invalid parameter "/E/P"
Could somesone help with the syntax for NTFS to give "101297" full permission to access "System Volume Information"? TY
If you want a way to backup your entire system then use a drive imaging program as suggested. If you only want to back up a limited amount of data then use a WinRAR, WinZIP, or similar archiving program, and pick and choose the data you want to backup/archive.
you guys are good Microsoft disciples with all of your secrecy
If your machine came with a "recovery partition" then this will be the case ..
Because what you burned ( if that was the case ..doesnt count ) that gets you back to a factory install if you use it ( if it even works ) and wipes all your data and your apps ..
Now ..if you just want to look at folders ( because believe us ..restoring from an image is easier and safer than changing folders or attempting to extract strings from inside system folders ) in doze ..
Then there are many ways ..but the easiest is
You need a live penguin :)
Because a penguin can see through windows ( and even fix and polish windows that are broken or dirty or corrupted ) ..whereas windows ..cant see apenguin ..nor can you if you are looking through windows trying to ..
So ..get a live penguin .they are free :)).knoppix is the best sort for this ( pop it in your DVD tray ..set bios to "boot from whatever your tray is called ..in doze typically D drive on laptops ..if your HD is ready partitioned it will be another letter like E or F ..each machine is different ..depends on the partitioning ..OH and dont "fool" with the partitioning while you are in there ) ..and when it can see your windows partition ..you set it to read it ..but definitely not write to it ( because this is your first time using a penguin ..and they can also break windows in the hands of the inexperienced ) ..then you nav through to the folder you want to see ..and you look inside ..but you change nothing ..absolutely nothing ..
If you want to copy the folder out to a USB key to have look at later thats OK ..but you "copy" ..you do not "move" ..and rename the copy to include the word BAK ( in upper case ) ..especially if afterwards you think you might look at it with windows ..
What is inside that folder will possibly make about as much sense to you maybe as a rotary engine laid out on the bench would ..
But seeing what is in there ..may just help you understand why you dont want to go touching and tweaking that folder ..although having a copy safe of the entire folder ( and some others ) that you can put ( again with a live penguin ..) back ..can be very usefull if you windows get broken ..( but if you ever do have to put that and / or any other folder back into windows ..dont forget to rename it back to the original windows name ..remove the BAK ) ..
PS ..dont be tempted to install the live penguin ( or any other penguin ) permanantly as dual boot with vista ..the loaders often dont play nice with each other .( and important bits of data get overwritten that the BIOS talks to before loading any OS ).and usually you lose the vista one ( so vista wont boot ..at all ..and has to be fixed ) and frequently have MBR problems ..which require additional bits of software to fix ..and some rather arcane knowledge to do ..and life is too short :)
This info is provided as is ..and as usual you do anything inside your own OS at your own risk and peril ..
best to just make a disc image ..onto an HD not DVD's ..and then run checksums on the image ..