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johnneumann

9:46 pm on Feb 1, 2004 (gmt 0)

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I put up a similar question a couple of days ago, but I'm getting some conflicting information so I wanted to ask again and hope for good advice.

I am brand new to web design. I own a little company and I have to come up with a website...quick. I do want to do it myself for a couple of reasons. I've decided that until I've learned Dreamweaver, I'm going to use Trellix...which is Earthlink's online drag and drop website maker.

My question is, if I create a site I like on Trellix and then learn Dreamweaver, will I be able to simply import my Trellix-made side into Dreamweaver and keep right on going building the site? Would Dreamweaver import a site made on other software as easily as that? Or would the site be buggy once transferred into new software?

johnneumann

12:16 am on Feb 2, 2004 (gmt 0)

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By the way, it's not important what web design software I use. I may end up using Claris Home Page 3.0 or any other beginner's drag and drop web design software.

My main question is: can this mickey-mouse site later be easily imported into Dreamweaver and will it stay intact and continue to run properly?

pleeker

10:48 pm on Feb 2, 2004 (gmt 0)

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My main question is: can this mickey-mouse site later be easily imported into Dreamweaver and will it stay intact and continue to run properly?

Dreamweaver doesn't care where the HTML came from. Just open a new Dreamweaver document and cut-and-paste the existing HTML.

Now, whether or not it will "stay intact and continue to run properly" depends on how good the original code is. :)

FWIW, I've had occasion to import old pages from Claris Home Page 3 created years ago and DW has never had any issues. Your mileage may vary.

johnneumann

1:00 am on Feb 3, 2004 (gmt 0)

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I just LOVE people who can speak from experience. Thanks for the authoritative response.

I'm going to get right on putting an interim site together in Claris. When it's done, I'll begin learning Dreamweaver and import the thing and keep right on going.

John

pleeker

6:11 pm on Feb 3, 2004 (gmt 0)

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You're welcome.

I'm going to get right on putting an interim site together in Claris. When it's done, I'll begin learning Dreamweaver and import the thing and keep right on going.

I've always thought (and still do) that Claris Home Page was just a couple moderate upgrades away from being the perfect HTML editor for the non-power user. If they had developed it out to v. 4.0 ... wow, that might've been great.

Couple things you'll want to look for when you bring your CHP code in DW:

1. CHP does all its tags in capital letters, i.e. <FONT SIZE="+1">, etc. In Dreamweaver's preferences, you can force it to fix those to be all lowercase. But you might need to open up the Preferences pane and hit UPDATE (or whatever it says) each time in order to get the preferences applied to the new code.

2. CHP's worst tendency, IMHO, is that it puts the <FONT> tag around everything -- images, <BR>s, etc. You'll want to manually clean up your code after you get it into DW. If you know CSS, you can remove all the <FONT> tags and use CSS to handle fonts. If not, just clean up the extraneous tags that CHP put in your pages.

Good luck.

ken_b

6:19 pm on Feb 3, 2004 (gmt 0)

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I'm just in the process of moving from an OLD (1997) program to DW and so far no problems to speak of updating the site.

DW does seem to insert an extra blank line after every line of old code, but it doesn't seem to affect the page. So far I haven't figured out a way to make it stop doing that.

pleeker

8:30 pm on Feb 3, 2004 (gmt 0)

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DW does seem to insert an extra blank line after every line of old code, but it doesn't seem to affect the page. So far I haven't figured out a way to make it stop doing that.

I've seen that on occasion, too. I'm not sure it's necessarily a DW problem, though. Different editors handle word-wrapping and carriage returns differently, and for DW to intrinsically adapt to all those different methods from other editors ... seems like asking a lot.

johnneumann

9:06 pm on Feb 3, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Thanks for the authoritative insights, Pleeker. The advice will go on to be invaluable. I'll save this thread for some future date when Dreamweaver goes on to replace Claris on my Mac.

If you are still following this thread, can I ask you another question?

Does it matter what program I used to create my website when it comes time to add shopping to the website? My site right now will be a static info-only site...but I want to add a shopping cart in about two months.

Will using Claris Home Page 3.0 now present a problem later?

pleeker

9:51 pm on Feb 3, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Does it matter what program I used to create my website when it comes time to add shopping to the website? My site right now will be a static info-only site...but I want to add a shopping cart in about two months.

Will using Claris Home Page 3.0 now present a problem later?

I'm afraid this is where me being "authoritative" comes to an end. But it was fun while it lasted. :)

I would say the answer to your question is: I can't imagine it would matter, but it probably depends what cart software you use.

Here where I work, we have our own proprietary database/shopping cart software which is only for our clients and only for development on our own servers. I have zero familiarity with the various off-the-shelf options and the 3rd-party commerce providers.

But I can't imagine any successful commerce application being unable to work inside a site just because of the editor with which the site was created (with the exception of Front Page).

ken_b

10:07 pm on Feb 3, 2004 (gmt 0)

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DW does seem to insert an extra blank line after every line of old code, but it doesn't seem to affect the page. So far I haven't figured out a way to make it stop doing that.

I've seen that on occasion, too. I'm not sure it's necessarily a DW problem, though. Different editors handle word-wrapping and carriage returns differently, and for DW to intrinsically adapt to all those different methods from other editors ... seems like asking a lot.

Yeah, it may be asking a bit much, but there's really no harm in asking :)

What I have figured out is that if I open the old page in Notepad and then save it again, even without making any changes, DW doesn'tadd the blank lines when I open the page.

So that's an option, but with 1,300+ pages I wouldn't mind a simpler choice.

Diabolique

9:49 am on Feb 24, 2004 (gmt 0)

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When you move from a website that has static pages to a website that has shopping carts, then you move from being a web designer to a web developer. Unfortunately, there are bitter few shopping carts which have been developed specifically for the Macintosh. And it all depends on the complexity of the shopping cart as well.The system I run now has Dreamweaver doing all the front end page design and on the shopping cart side I run a PC standalone program which forms the e-commerce module. Its definitely not ideal but I have yet to find a Macintosh shopping cart which will integtrate with Dreamweaver seamlessly