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Keyword & Keyphrase in title, how to better optimize these?

remove redundancy from keyphrase is good option?



10:16 pm on May 1, 2008 (gmt 0)

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From last few days i am searching on web about how we can optimize keywords in better way. Well let me explain my confusion. Suppose i have 4 keywords. Here is the combination of these keywords for key phrase KW1 KW2, KW1 KW3, KW1 KW4, KW2 KW3

So look on these keyphrase KW1 is used in three keyphrase, so can i rewrite these keyphrase like this in my page title "KW1 KW2", "KW3", "KW4"

Will it make any sense of removing redundant keyword from page title? Now if user search for KW1 KW3, will this still show my site in list highlighting matching keywords or i need to make again redundant keyphrase to come in search?

I tried my best to explain, please ask me if i am not clear any where.

Receptional Andy

10:30 pm on May 1, 2008 (gmt 0)

Hi compose,

To me, it seems that you're looking at keywords from a purely statistical perspective, which I'm not sure is going to help you. Is your page equally relevant to all the combinations of words you mention? I'm not sure that any page could be.

But from what I've seen, no major search engine has managed to get even a basic grasp on the meanings of combinations of words. And yet children seem to have an innate understanding of language. Use this to your advantage.


10:47 pm on May 1, 2008 (gmt 0)

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Thanks andy for reply.

Well i was just thinking if my page title will be like

KW1 KW2, KW1 KW3, KW4 KW1, KW5, KW6 KW1 KW2

will not it be counted as keyword stuffing only, what i noticed in google for some other sites, that when some one search for "KW1 KW3" google returns result with exact matching "Key phrase" plus, page titles in which these Keyword appear any where.

So i was thinking if we can remove KW1 redundancy to archive same result or my observation is wrong?


Receptional Andy

11:00 pm on May 1, 2008 (gmt 0)

KW1 KW2, KW1 KW3, KW4 KW1, KW5, KW6 KW1 KW2

IMO, this is too simplistic an approach. You aren't going to arrive at a great title by combining words in this way.

At the very least, you need to consider the content of the page itself as a a factor in the best words to use, and (if you're statistically-minded) look at other data such as site usage stats: especially when you're considering something as important a title.


11:25 pm on May 9, 2008 (gmt 0)

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Your title should be read naturally.

Remember that people still chooses which link to click from the 10 results given by SE.


9:05 pm on May 10, 2008 (gmt 0)

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Really nice and useful information

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