Introducing Experimental Conversational Engine, Google Bard

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As mentioned in the update thread, here's a little more detail that Google has introduced its experimental conversational engine, Google Bard.

We’ve been working on an experimental conversational AI service, powered by LaMDA, that we’re calling Bard. And today, we’re taking another step forward by opening it up to trusted testers ahead of making it more widely available to the public in the coming weeks.

Bard seeks to combine the breadth of the world’s knowledge with the power, intelligence and creativity of our large language models. It draws on information from the web to provide fresh, high-quality responses. Bard can be an outlet for creativity, and a launchpad for curiosity, helping you to explain new discoveries from NASA’s James Webb Space Telescope to a 9-year-old, or learn more about the best strikers in football right now, and then get drills to build your skills.

Has Google rushed at this in recent weeks?

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[superclown2]

It draws on information from the web to provide fresh, high-quality responses

Since the web is a mass of incorrect and often contradictory information I can see huge problems ahead for them.

If they show visitors a list of websites, the responsibility for providing correct information rests with the website owners. If Google provides it then they may well be responsible for the consequences if someone suffers a disaster as a result of incorrect information. Going off some of the nonsense I have seen on Chatgpt their technology, at least, is nowhere near good enough to be relied on for important queries.

Perhaps AI is not a Google killer, but their fear of it may well be.

[Sgt_Kickaxe]

It draws on information from the web

What's in it for the webmasters then? $$$

[tangor]

This changes g from providing a list of sites with POSSIBLE answers to g PROVIDING the answers ... that will change things dramatically for information accuracy---and accountability.

We live in interesting times!

[tangor]

The average webizen does not have the critical reasoning/thinking skills if under age 45 to question what is "published on the web" or whatever google pronounces.

[Nutterum]

AI answer information bots can only exist because of the websites and their content. In my mind the website web as we know it will not just stop functioning. What would happen is that Google Search will shrink from broad keyword match and informational query match to specific query match. Even more so, in my mind Google / Bing will turn in to the biggest affiliate search engine because of the bots.

Imagine a world where ChatGPT or LamBDA 2 can answer the query "Search the web and provide me with a list of top 10 deals by price and positive reviews for spring dresses. It will return the answer and you can directly open the link or even buy from the list straight up, with the answer provider getting a cut.

The future of search will be "long tail answer queries" . Yes, you can quote me as labeling it .

[saladtosser]

Can we block this bot from visiting and learning from our sites?

[longjohnbronze]

Dependent on user adoption, this development will mean death for basic business models reliant on organic traffic from informational searches, and to some extent transactional searches. Don't kid yourselves with "this can only exist because of our work". Maybe, but nobody's (text) content is irreplaceable and there's always going to be information sources that are freely accessible; e.g. publicly funded, or websites with strong brands that don't rely on search engines for their existence.

[seomotionz]

Don't kid yourselves with "this can only exist because of our work"

If this how it works. Then small publishers who depend solely on offering quality information will be destroyed. It's a violation alright. We provide the information. G is the medium who sends people who are looking for it. That's it. And in the process through adsense we make money and through adwords G makes money.

Publishers will no longer have any incentive to produce content. Imagine you wrote a story and on the very next day you are seeing G is showing it just using some other alternate words or so. Without even mentioning anything about you. That's a clear case of STEALING.

Can we block this bot from visiting and learning from our sites?

The best thing will be if we can limit the access of Google bots. Yes, it will be able to read to some point but it will not be able to learn and most certainly not produce the content as it's own.

[tangor]

The best thing will be if we can limit the access of Google bots. Yes, it will be able to read to some point but it will not be able to learn and most certainly not produce the content as it's own.

That horse has already left the barn. Even if every website on the planet blocked g tomorrow, they have 20+ years of cached info that will serve them very well.

What SHOULD be done is recognition of the true "partnership" between "creators" and the "list makers" (search) and suitable compensation arranged on both sides.

Again, that ship has sailed YEARS ago when all jumped on the "free" g ad machine expecting life changing riches, a few did, and that "myth" has keep them in business ever since.

[superclown2]

Is there any truth in the rumour that Google are renaming 'Bard' to 'Elon'?

[nedensizpostalar]

Hello, I have an issue that I have been thinking about for the last few days.

Will informative and specific traffic site owners no longer make money with adsense?

Gmail creator says ChatGPT-like AI will destroy Google's business in two years

Many site owners earn money by clicking on adsense ads thanks to traffic from google's search.

Google is expected to introduce its artificial intelligence called BARD this week.

If Google presents the searched information without sending visitors to the site thanks to artificial intelligence, What will site owners do?

This is not encouraging for me. Thanks to the income website.

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[superclown2]

Gmail creator says ChatGPT-like AI will destroy Google's business in two years

He can say that. Others may think differently.

ChatGPT is just one of the threats facing Google. Yes it will take business away from them but they are still hard wired into the Internet infrastructure thanks partly to the huge sums they spend on 'lobbying' (some of us may have a different word for that). That situation may of course change drastically; America is not the only country trying to bring them to heel.

The simple fact is that (at least with the technology that exists today) AI is not up to giving accurate answers all of the time and the folks at ChatGPT are quite open about this. For Google to offer it as a serious replacement for the current system would be a huge gamble which could backfire substantially.

If website owners are going to be financially destroyed (as they have been for many years now) it is far more likely that it will be Google's ever growing need to keep people clicking on ads rather than innovations like AI. Wait until the dust settles, look at the situation and decide for yourself how to exploit it.

Personally I feel more confident about the future of my Internet business than I have done for years, because I have not the slightest doubt that Google - at least as a search engine (even though it is really an advertising company) has passed it's peak and it is likely to be going downhill for a long time to come, giving others (perhaps run by ex-Googlers; I believe even senior staff are getting restless) a chance to break into their monopoly. This will not only be good for publishers but also for the billions of consumers who effectively pay a Google Tax on everything they buy via a Google ad.

[tangor]

We will have to wait and see how these "AI" chatters work in the serp world. Particularly their ideological leanings (and rest assured, they have that, after all, they are written by HUMANS and are not actually "sentient).

[Nutterum]

ChatGPT and Bard are just the thunder we hear at the horizon. I believe we are at the early adoption part of the Technology Disruption S curve. What that means we dont even know how these AI networks will change the game, just like no one in the traditional Music industry knew that they will be left without a job when Napster was invented or most general stores would shut down when Amazon sold their first book online. Many people believe Disruption is an overnight process. No, disruption is a decade long process, involving lobbying, mass adoption generation, technical competition race, etc. etc. These things take time. But after a decade we will look back and wander how the F did we do things in the "olden days" just like Gen Zs cant understand the time before smartphone and high speed internet.