Will links from the same site count less?

[WebWalla]

Given that links are from pages with the same PR in the following simple link structure, will domain1 get more PR than domain2?

example.com/page1.htm links to domain1.com
example.com/page2.htm links to domain1.com

example2.com/page1.htm links to domain2.com
example3.com/page1.htm links to domain2.com

i.e. do multiple links from the same domain count less than links from different domains?

Thanks.

[fathom]

yup ... and lots of smiles :) :) :) :)

[NickCoons]

The forum is virtually useless without adequate smiles :-).

[Shadow]

Nick, of course you're right. I'm sorry about that ... way past midnight, Saturday night ... you know ...

I wasn't referring to pagerank in particular, so it was very wrong to quote you on it. My apologies.

[fathom]

:) see how a smile makes everything better.

"Group hug!" ;)

[vitaplease]

They probably average the Pr donation of all links from that same site and donate one.
Simple webmaster/client signing precaution.

Not that is necessarily applies here or to Pagerank, but rephrased in more technical terms:

very old 1988, but who knows, Monika Henzinger was involved:
[research.compaq.com...]
(if it does not open search for it in google and open the text version)

Mutually reinforcing relationships between hosts give undue weight to the opinion of a single person. Ideally we would like all the documents on a single host to have the same influence on the document they are connected to as a single document would. To achieve this we give fractional weights to edges in such cases:

If there are k edges from documents on a first host to a single document on a second host we give each edge an authority weight of 1/k. This weight is used when computing the authority score of the document on the second host..

[ciml]

vitaplease, that quote is very interesting.

As I read it, "we give each edge an authority weight of 1/k" implies that you'd be better off with just the highest PR link from a domain, otherwise it gets watered down and the other links won't make up for the loss.

I'm pretty sure that Google don't do this for PageRank, at present.

[vitaplease]

I'm pretty sure that Google don't do this for PageRank, at present

Not with internal links, most probably not with links from DMOZ, but I would not be suprised if it happens in some form for "every clients page site signing" to one external site page, because it makes sense.

[BroadProspect]

Intresting,
so in case of a site which targets one keyword and you would like to promote the root index page as much as possible, you SHOULD not link all sub pages in all levels to the root since what you will end up with is an avarage contribution insteed of a SUM PR contribution? so that means that you should actually interlink the subpages and have only one point to the root?

Any ideas / avidence for that?

BroadProspect

[jbauder]

I recently read through a document that talked about the dual importance of having PR AND of Having Anchor Text in the links themselves ... I suspect that people (myself included) focus too much on just the link for PR value.

I'm going to try and example (not sure if it will make sense but ...

Let's say I get a site that has agreed to link all 4 of their pages to my site, their pages are

things
redthings
bluethings
green things

I have 3 sites that sell squares, circles, and triangles and I have pages on each site for red blue and green ...

It is easiest for them to just add a text link called squares that links to my home page on all of their 4 pages, is it worth pushing to get a link from the redthings page to red squares, blue to blue etc

Or am I basically just as well off having them hit the home page ... also is there a big advantage to having them hit each of the 3 sites ...

Additionally they prefer an 88x31 banner, am I losing a lot by agreeing to this instead of having a text link with the keyword?

Any help appreciated ...

[BroadProspect]

I would say that alt text for the banner may help you on this

[fathom]

I suspect that people (myself included) focus too much on just the link for PR value.

Very true.

A tend to look at PageRank as measurement of... "how many people go to watch a hockey game".

The attendance (shown PR value) rarely reflects the outcome of the game itself (ranking or standings).

When all other things are equal -- home field has an advantage but if your best goalie, best shooter are injured and not playing (or less relevant links, less relevant link anchors, less relevant content, etc.) it matters not how good your past home games were as well as how many people attend.

PageRank - can not be segregated from the other 99 considerations for good ranking.

[Chuma]

I know it's different for other people, but on the site I maintain the pages that have links to them from every page on the website (site directory) seem to have a higher ranking than those pages only linked to from each page in a sub directory (navigation menu) and the PR is even less for sites that only have a link from one other page.

Thanks.