PR8 with 1 backlink?

[kwngian]

I came across a big software company that has a PR8 across many of their pages and one of this page actually provides the addresses and URLs of their resellers all over the world. Going through the URLs of all their resellers in my location, it seems all of them has PR8. These are small to medium size outfits with about many 5-20 employees but the actually outrank our 3-4 major ISPs (PR7) with thousands of employees with just 1 backlink.

I have place the above comment in a reply to a post but its seems nobody is concern about it.

Some of the members here maintained hundreds of reciprocal links just to get PR7? Some of these companies mentioned above are my competitors in other areas and even if I were to follow the footsteps of some of the members here working hard on exchanging links, I will probably get a PR6 and if I work even harder for few hundred links a PR7. If we overdo it, it not only defaces our pages but we may be considered linkfarms? This is really disheartening.

Better idea -> just be a reseller for that big software company and you get a PR8 once they list you. Optimize your pages just a teeny wee bit and you get a #1 for the keywords or your choice.

Am I missing something here? Can anyone advise me and guide me in the correct direction? I follow advises here and tweak and tweak my web pages even to the extend of removing unneccessary spaces and tabs but now am pausing to think, is it worth the effort at all?

kwngian

[WebGuerrilla]

So should PR be based on the number of employees you have? If Google did that, then 90% of the pages in their index would be a PR0.

If the software company is considered important enouh to have a PR8, then the companies that are associated with them are worthy of PR being passed. That's just how it works.

[Shakil]

Better idea -> just be a reseller for that big software company and you get a PR8 once they list you. Optimize your pages just a teeny wee bit and you get a #1 for the keywords or your choice.
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looks like I better change my business and become a reseller for the company you mention.

Nothing is fair or free in this world, not even Google traffic.

Shak

[freejung]

It's pretty clear that one really good link is better than many many poor ones. Why not? If you can get a link with a PR8 page, you can get great PR with one backlink too. And if not, then by Google's standards, you are not as important. Having high PR gives you a lot of power.

Look at the flip side of this. If you have a PR7, you can easily create a PR6 page simply by linking to it from your PR7 page. You need not do anything else, instant PR6, this gives you a lot of power. Having observed this, why not use it to your advantage?

[yetanotheruser]

for my twopence worth.. no one said PR was perfect (did they?;)) but the guys above are right.. The toolbar PR is an over symplification of PR, which is inherently exponential.. so a single PR8 page could produce hundreds (I guess) pr7 pages... but getting PR8 requires a hell of a lot of links in turn..

it's gotta be the fairest system at the moment? once a month every page in the index is re-born equal.. can't say fairer than that.

:) ..

[jeremy goodrich]

I think you got the right idea -> become a reseller, and if it really passes the pagerank like you believe, you'll all set.

Life isn't fair. :) If you got the edge, use it.

[rfgdxm1]

And, are you aware there are ODP categories that getting listed is enough alone to get a site a PR7? One of the things that have concerned me as an ODP editor. In theory, it seems it shouldn't matter where a site is listed in the ODP, and they should get the same PR benefit. Not the way it works with Google. One of the reasons I laugh at people who whine about backlogs of unrevieweds at the ODP causing their site to not get listed for a year or more who think that an ODP listing is the magic bullet to do well with Google. Most ODP cats have sufficiently low PR, and so many sites listed in the cat, that getting an ODP listing at best gets a site a mediocre PR. I know teenagers with home pages that have a higher PR than most ODP cats, and getting a link from these kids will do more for your site than an ODP listing. There definitely is some unfairness to the way Google PR works. However, life isn't fair.

[SlyOldDog]

It'll work today, but maybe not tomorrow. Once Google spots it they will apply the "unable to pass on" penalty either to the main site or the resellers. This happened to one of our backlinks from a pagerank 9 (ouch).

I wouldn't bother wasting my time becoming a reseller. The internet will have morphed a few times before your new agreement drops though the post box.

[yetanotheruser]

It'll work today, but maybe not tomorrow.

Sadly in this case it looks like it will go on working.. kwngian was kind enough to sticky me the link and it has serious PR to spare..

Thing is, I guess it's not as simple as 'this page has PRx so it'll be giving my page PRx-1' .. the problem in this case is that the site behind the page in question has absolutely massive PR.. if it's linking to small companies with small sites then as the PR is calculated, huge chunks of PR will pool in these little sites, and at each itteration this page will get another healthy PR8 to give away...

I haven't incidently, ever come across a site with this much PR except google.com so I guess there's not too much that can be done :(

[kwngian]

WebGuerrilla

If PR is popularity vote, then something is not quite right here.

Popular site such as WW is PR7. A site without much contents other than selling their products is a higher PR8.

kwngian

[Shakil]

as has been mentioned many a time, PR is NOT everything.

no point having a PR8 but getting NO traffic, much rather have a PR5 and be whipping big players in the SERPS.

Shak

[SlyOldDog]

Hey Shak. Always the optimist :)

[Shakil]

time, patience, age and hanging round webmasterworld teaches you a lot of things.

1 of the biggest things I learnt was forget the PR, concentrate on "quality targeted traffic" and watch the $$$s roll in.

Proof is in the Pudding, and I just finished my 3rd plate :)

Shak

[vitaplease]

If PR is popularity vote, then something is not quite right here.

It has more to do with what Google sees as "important or high quality" than with popularity.

[google.com...]

To become a reseller of this important high quality software, you get accredited by the maker of that software by a vote (link).

A high Pagerank does not mean relevant to many search queries, it just means high pagerank.

[JayC]

It's not really a widespread problem. The site in question has a PR of 10 on the index page, and there are only a handful of those. I suppose that's cold comfort if you happen to be in a market segment where that means some of your competitors are getting a PR9 link, but I personally don't really see it as a fatal flaw in PageRank.

The real test is, is it causing irrelevant search results? If a high PR is doing no more than putting one relevant site ahead of another on a results page full of relevant sites, it's not really a problem in the big picture.

[rfgdxm1]

True JayC. Since they are linking to resellers, than this means that likely they are linking to relevant sites.