Cached pages

don't seem to show up in my searches

[daamsie]

I noticed most of my pages have been cached from the 4th of Jan today. (guess the update's truly over then)

Strangely, when I tried performing searches on some of the new phrases in pages, the results only deliver the old indexed version.

So for example I searched for site:www.mysite.com mysite.. and have seen a whole bunch of Jan4 cached pages.. one of which for example now has as title 'widget guide' (rather than just 'widget', as previously).
I then performed a search for 'widget guide' to see if my site shows up any higher than it did.. but I can't find my page at all.. typing in 'widget guide mysite' I thought would at least show me the page, but that's where I really got stumped: it came up with NO RESULTS at all! How can that be? Are recently cached pages only available when using the site: prefix?

I'm sure last month when there were newly cached pages, I could check the keywords right away.. why not this month?

[teeceo]

The whole jan-4 is gone, like it was never there(but we did see it right? does this happen alot or did goole server crash with all the changes:)

teeceo

[daamsie]

Jan4 hasn't gone.. it only shows when I use the site:www.mysite.com query.. it doesn't show for example when I search for 'mysite' - strange me thinks!

[OZZY2662]

I have a Time of Day Clock on every page of my website. The January 4th cached pages are actually from Dec. 31st. I do a search on "site:www.mydomain.com xx/yy" The xx/yy are the date (01/04) to see how many pages are freshly cached.

With above search set for 01/04 date, I see the results with "www.www.mydomain.com - 16k - Jan. 4, 2003 - Cached". But when I look at the cached page I see 12/31/2003. There is definitely something wrong with google fresh index.

[daamsie]

I see.. this is looking stranger all the time.. the title tags and description displaying as 4thJan are definately post 31st december, because I changed them only last couple of days, however the cached version is from the 31st. What's going on?

[OZZY2662]

You are correct daamsie.

The SERP displayed have the January 4th contents but the cached pages are Dec 31st.

[daamsie]

another oddity: this morning (aus.time) when I searched for the title of my site there were 1400 results.. yet now (after this 4jan cache), I only have 1330 results.. can the number drop during the month? I thought surely once it's indexed, it will at least be there for the duration of the month.

[vitaplease]

>.. can the number drop during the month?

that happens all the time, due the the Fresh listings..

Lets say 100 pages, weblogs, forums etc listed the unique information of your website, many not even linking to you but just mentioning your website title name.

Some of those pages added that information in the last month before the previous deep index. Some of those pages have Fresh listings. Those will show up as "extra" results on some days that Google shows Fresh listings.

[daamsie]

Lets say 100 pages, weblogs, forums etc listed the unique information of your website, many not even linking to you but just mentioning your website title name.

Fair point! That would certainly account for some of them... now the strange thing is though, that the amount of pages indexed for my site has dropped.. from around 500 to around 300.. I am doing a search query like: site:www.mysite.com mysite.. which returns 200 less results then right after the index! (and I know all my pages include the name of my site, because of they have standard headers).. any ideas?

[Brett_Tabke]

Google has many data centers and thousands upon thousands of machines. There are no garantees which center or which cluster you are going to be talking to in different searches. Those centers won't all have the same copy of the index. We nicked the effect, "everflux" as a catch all for freshbot and daily update activity. eg: wysoagsiwyg: what you see on any given search, is what you get.

[daamsie]

wysoagsiwyg

- nice one :)

I've been following the discussions on updates etc.. for a little while now, but I guess still don't get it :(
When the update for this month was in full swing (until this latest cache).. all the datacenters I checked. . (www2, www3, www-ex, etc).. all said 500 results for my site.. Now.. ALL of them are saying 300 results..

Is this possible in the everflux? If so, what's the big deal about the index once a month then, apart from PR.. considering all your pages can dissapear again two days later?