Remove site or get it banned... how?

methods?

[leef50]

Right, I have now re-branded my website and need to get my old site out of the SERPS. Should I fill in the remove from google form or should try and get the site banned so it can never be a good domain on google again?

Since I don't want the site listed in google again... requesting removal may not be permanent since backlinks will force the spider to chomp on it again... or does google flag the domain for it to not be included again unless it is requested to be included...

So, to be sure it has rubbish SERPS or google removes it, how can I be sure to pick up a ban... I guess what im asking is for the cardinal sin of SEO so that google wont visit the old domain any more. Same colour text, hidden etc? Will this be enough?

You may thing this is a strange question but I really could do with some advice here

[lazyz]

why not just use a "robots.txt" file to disallow googlebot?

[Stefan]

How about a page full of tiny "adult content" keywords, same text and background colour, that does a redirect to another similar page that then redirects back to the first one? Would that work?

It all seems a bit unethical though... you really want to drive a stake through the things heart eh?

<edit> Or sign a lot of guest books... :-) </edit>

[Visit Thailand]

Why do you not just put a We have moved page up and a text link ?

That way your new site will already have an inbound link

[toddb]

Also a good site has some value maybe you could sell it. Type in traffic is worth something. Not saying it is worth a lot but a banned domain is NOT worth much.

[BigDave]

Though it might be fun to go about getting a site banned, Just remember that Google guys and gals do know how to do a whois. I don't know if I would want a record of being a spammer that got a site banned forever.

[Stefan]

Other than the whois factor and the dodgy ethics, it could be an interesting experiment... use a doomed site as a testbed to see just what Google will put up with.

[leef50]

Thats what I was thinking... using it to test some stuff out and see how long it takes to get doomed. I suppose I could find all the PR0 gamblink sites and link to them LOL :)

[Liane]

Unless I am way off base, the problem with trying to get a site banned is that if your new site has any or a lot of the same content as the new site, the original site will be the one which Google will view as the "real site" and will automatically downgrade the PR for the new site.

If you get the original site banned, I am not sure at all what repercussions (if any) it will have on the new site.

Messing around and playing the "let's see what it will take to get banned" game could be shooting yourself and your new site in the foot.

If you plan to keep using the site for other purposes, use the robots text to keep Googlebot out and have done with it. Otherwise, if you intend to kill the site, put in a redirect as you have already been advised.

Just my two cents! :)

[leef50]

I think I will just put a moved permanently thingy whatsit in and be safe :)

[Nick_W]

ahem.... 301 redirect anybody?

Nick

[Liane]

Wise choice leef50! ;)

{added} Don't forget to get in touch with all those linking to you to advise them of the URL change!

[ukgimp]

Why mess with something that could get your new site wasted. What about permanent redirects. That way you may keep some of the traffic.

If the site is hosted on the same ip you could get that into trouble.

[leef50]

Well I am using virtual hosting but the new site uses a different IP Address... so, am I right in thinking that if some1 else on my server where to get penalised then i would also?

[ukgimp]

Leef

I have read that this is less of a problem these days. If they did blanket banning of of virtual hosting accounts i reckon you would lose a hell of a lot out of the index and I doubt they want that. Perhaps if large sets of dodgy sites came from the same host it may be prone to a ban of some sort.

[jaeden]

Let's say I wanted to kill my site too. This is just an extra site that gets little traffic if any. To get rid of it entirely, this is what I plan on doing.

1. Remove all HTML pages including index
2. Change robots.txt file to disallow robots
3. Submit site to Google automatic URL removal system
4. Wait until site drops from Google
5. Take down the HTTP server for good

That should get rid of the site for good from Google eh? Once they drop the site from the index and I take it offline, there is NO WAY it will go back.

Basically I'm doing this because the second site could be thought of as a duplicate site and I'm wanting to come clean, and not have some competitor report me.

[puzzled]

leef50: Are you really sure, you want to get
that domain banned?

If you have a linux server, it's easy.

My HowtTo to get your Domain banned.
------------------------------------
1. Create many, many, many subdomains.
2. Create one html page with absolute links
to those subdomains and alot links to your
main domain (www.domain.com). You could
write a shell script to make that page for
you.

3. Setup your webserver to catch all domain
names.

Now you have many pages linking to each other.
Call it a link farm. Or shout that word loudly. :)

4. Make sure that your pages on your new
domain don't accidently link to your old domain.

Warn the webmasters that have an outbound
link to your old domain. Tell them that your
site is going bad. (And you mad?)
Don't warn the webmaster you don't like ;)

5. Wait 2 update cycles or more, just to make
sure all pages are indexed by Google.

6. If your domain is not banned yet by now,
write an abuse, spam report to Google

Plase don't take that text seriously. :)

[leef50]

It's quite interesing that it seems like lots of people get banned or penalised and say things to avoid but its clear that there is no clear cut way to get a penalty in the same way as there is no clear cut way to create a successfull site. It seems sometimes that it is based on good luck or bad luck with google. Lets face it, all of what is here is based on assumption since only google really knows the score. Quite funny really since thus far I have been lucky.

Dunno anymore... I need to get some sleep now. Google can be your best freind or worst enemy but heck, we all love it!