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(nice idea by the way Giacomo)
by creating froogle they automatically gather attention of those selling products directly, therefore freeing the regular google from these people. the ones left in regular google are likely affiliates and what google considers people duplicating product info just to sell, those without direct sales.
in froogle only people with real catalogs may join. so if you're not direct sales then you can't join. therefore affiliates are naturally flowing the direction of kaput. easy finding them now, anyone left selling in google is an affiliate, and regular searchers will immediately identify them as such and go directly amazon.com for example. real sales people with direct sales programs will be in froogle.
i think it'll be a natural genocide of affiliates. smart move by google too, no harsh moves, one great product engine and the end of the affiliate spam in sight.
"i am become froogle, destroyer of _________". <- fill your affiliate name on the blank.
I can see only one practical objection (as opposed to philosophical objections) to this: If pages selected for Froogle received less weight in the main index, affiliate pages (which aren't eligible for Froogle) might rank higher than the pages of merchants who actually stock and ship goods. And it's hard to imagine Google wanting an affiliate page for REI canoes at kens-discount-canoes-and-kayaks.com to rank higher for relevancy than REI's own canoes page in a search on "REI canoes."
Froogle's in Beta and still has a way to go. In my industry Froogle's results are strange compared to the normal SERPs. Searching for my top keyword "widgets" brings back tons of toy widgets. Toy widgets don't show up in the top 100 results of Google's Serps but on Froogle there's tons of them. Also, I'm not seeing any of the top ecommerce sites in our industry on Froogle. Would change if they requested a data feed but it seems that they miss allot of websites on the crawl.
"i am become froogle, destroyer of _________". <- fill your affiliate name on the blank.
Hope this isn't the case. I feel a lot of webmasters who create affiliate sites only do so to create revenue to pay for hosting bills etc. for non commercial / information sites. If you destroy the ability to make revenue from affiliate marketing, there could be a drop in the amount of non-commerical / information sites being created. I know for a fact this would mean quite a few of my non-commercial sites being sunk.
in froogle only people with real catalogs may join. so if you're not direct sales then you can't join. therefore affiliates are naturally flowing the direction of kaput. easy finding them now, anyone left selling in google is an affiliate, and regular searchers will immediately identify them as such and go directly amazon.com for example. real sales people with direct sales programs will be in froogle.
For this not to happen google's best answer would be not to alter the web search. Make sure the sites in froogle are still in the web search.
I feel a lot of webmasters who create affiliate sites only do so to create revenue to pay for hosting bills etc. for non commercial / information sites. If you destroy the ability to make revenue from affiliate marketing, there could be a drop in the amount of non-commerical / information sites being created.
Are you talking about affiliate sites or information sites with affiliate links? There's a difference, just as there's a difference between a newsprint shopping flyer and a newspaper that carries ads.
Mind you, I'm not suggesting that Google needs to (or should) drop affiliate sites. But it does need to keep affiliate pages (and commercial pages, period) from overwhelming its higher-ranking search results. FWIW, I just did searches on a few digital cameras. For several models, manufacturers' pages and independent camera reviews came up in the top positions; for another model, the top slots were occupied by merchant or affiliate pages. Which results were better? I prefer the former over the latter, but maybe that's because I'm not a retailer. :-) I do think the results should be more consistent, though. A user should be able to expect that, if he searches on a product name, he'll find information pages before he gets to sell pages--or vice versa, if that's how Google chooses to display search results.
Are you talking about affiliate sites or information sites with affiliate links? There's a difference, just as there's a difference between a newsprint shopping flyer and a newspaper that carries ads
Yeah referring to affiliate sites that contain useful information. And the information is the focus, not the affiliate link. Obviously anything else is just spam and I would refer to it as such.
Ive seen purely charity based sites that use Amazon affiliate links to substantiate their site (with an account of the revenue earned to date on the site).
Personally, my one affiliate based site was originally intended to be a money maker, but now im just aiming to pay the bills for the other sites.
Do you think we are likely to see affiliate links intruding onto Froogle in some way? Ie, a site offer 10% products and 90% affiliates?
On another note...
I would like to see a froogle type search for purley information based sites. Just me though! :)
JOAT
Honestly, my content is nothing but merchant products/ads, but I can still find my sites/products listed in Froogle.
I do believe a lot of affiliate links will slip by and will depend on volunteer reporting, just like in the search engine.
Next rat hobbie : reporting competitors with affiliate links on Froogle.....the ammount of free help Google gets has no end...until everyone realises Google is a company not your best buddy....
