Feeling Minty Fresh

[Lisa]

I love the feeling of being minty fresh. Add new content, waited a night. Bam. Makes waiting for these monthly indexes less of an important thing. Just wanted to say thanks!

[jackofalltrades]

It is a fantastic experience! :)

I have a site that I add to daily and it makes the work seem more worthwhile knowing that the changes will be reflected the next day!

Unfortunately it works for your competitors as well....now if only Google could change that in their algo...

JOAT ;)

[ScottM]

Yes, this minty freshness is a welcome idea!

Thanks google for this...it really has helped my website and my visitors with my new articles. Just in time for winter!

:)

[whats up skip]

Do you think it is taking account of new links and thus changing your position?

What about new pages, is it adding them?

Most of our key pages still seem to be waiting for a major update. PR4 and in Japanese. I don't know if this has an impact.

[jackofalltrades]

I think its a gradual process:

You get indexed for the first time.

The next time, if x amount of content is changed, then you get indexed more frequently...and so on.

You only really see the fresh effect on a new site if you get a link from a frequently indexed site.

IMHO anyway.

JOAT

[Stefan]

It seems to be just refreshing pages it has from the last index... it's doing it on a daily basis though. I get to play with keywords one day, and see the results the next. This has been very, very cool.
(I've been cleaning up code and adding content... don't want to leave the impression I'm just after keyword results).

[edited by: Stefan at 2:54 am (utc) on Dec. 21, 2002]

[jackofalltrades]

Ive seen instances where the site has been in the SERPs mid update.

IE, the site has gone online after one update and is in the SERPs before the next.

It had a link from a regularly updated site.

JOAT

[GoogleGuy]

Lisa, glad your sites are minty fresh!

[brotherhood of LAN]

I should have some minty fresh content.

Young G Bot decided a few months ago I should be mintily spidered, but I haven't added any day-to-day content to satisfy its 'craving' for my content ;)

Any chance you can say what sort of content Lisa?

Obviously news works great with this freshbot, maybe even Mystic Meg has an advantage if she ever wants to make a website too (predictions etc) :)

[fathom]

Minty has been working lots of overtime here as well.

As per Googleguys suggestion a while back, I've started adding meta expiry to pages I am happy with.

[Hardwood Guy]

Correct me if I'm wrong. Absoluetly nobody that I know of that is of importance within my line of business updates like I do. I do it almost daily..they may do it once every six months. Will this move me up in the search ranks? It looks like I'm moving up by the number of search referrals I've been getting over the last two weeks. Btw, my second site and the one I feel to be more important was indexed two months ago.

How about new pages with you folks. Do you notice an immediate page rank like I do?

Thanks for a greeeeeat site!

Ken

[Beachboy]

WW is #3 for "minty freshness." :)

[brotherhood of LAN]

Here's an idea, minty fresh "keyword vectors" :)

situation: Googlebot visits every day
proposition: how can you test the bot using various keyword "sets" that you already target

If its taking some PR5 links to get your optimised widget page freshly visited, if it was altered to target wodgets (same field, different keyword), how would your ranking fare after the freshbot has taken a scan of it?

I'd 'assume' that the page would not benefit as much from its inbound links if most of the anchor text was "widgets".

If the rating tanked, then pagerank must have some sort of instant effect.

There must be some sort of failsafe for sites that are freshly visited and dramatically change their content (i.e. domain runs out and its now pron)

[India_max]

Hiya All,

I have a fundamental Question regarding the daily updation "Minty Fresh" results.

Does google add your changes into their cache (database)?

I don't think so, because my site is PR6, and the cache shows my last months "monthly spidered" snapshot.

Also, if Minty Fresh does add everyday updates into it's database, then is the Monthly Goggle BOT scrapped (non-existant now?)

Please do let me know, as i am planning to put approx. 75 new pages by 27th December for the monthy update.

Thankx.

Prash.

[fathom]

Refresh is not cached over monthly updates.

Once a new refresh occurs on your specific keyphrases if your pages were not in that refresh reverts back to monthly.

Unless minty hits your page(s) everyday (rare) on the next refresh update you revert.

[Stefan]

Forgive me if I've misunderstood your question, India_max...
I have had Google visiting my site everyday since at least Dec 12. The changes that I make to content, and titles, show up in the cached version the next day. I also have pages that continue to show up in the monthly cache on searches of the old titles, i.e., the same page is in Google with two different versions.
This freshbot is great... my site was done first with MSWord, and had totally bloated code. I'm cleaning it up, adding pages, and generally improving things and can see it in the serps the next day, freshly cached as well. My main pages are PR 6 and #1 for most keywords... with the constant content changes, maybe that's why I'm getting refreshed every day.