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German article on Google Problem Search Results

in leading news magazine

         

pontifex

8:13 pm on Dec 4, 2002 (gmt 0)

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[heise.de...]

you may use babelfish or google to translate it :-)

europeforvisitors

1:36 am on Dec 5, 2002 (gmt 0)



Interesting article. The bottom line, for those who don't read German, is that Website owners can obtain good placement through paid listings or by creating good content.

bcc1234

4:32 am on Dec 5, 2002 (gmt 0)

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europeforvisitors, thanks for saving us a lot of time :)

Allergic

4:46 am on Dec 5, 2002 (gmt 0)

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I totally agree with that article. And it is raising a good point I was discussing few weeks ago with a well known search software maker here in Quebec.

The european, imho, are by far more agressive (and unethical) in SEO. And it is showing more and more in SERP in Google. For some very targeted keywords, you will usually find 50% of the top 10 links, a doorway page who redirect you to the root of the site at the place to focus you on the good section or page of the site.

I talk about that in some France forum and with some SEO guy a meet this summer. And they don't see anything wrong with that.

I said to thoses guys it is probably the geopraphic density of thoses people living close together for hundreds of years in those small country who forged theses mentality.

PS: Sorry for my poor english writing

Monkscuba

4:48 am on Dec 5, 2002 (gmt 0)

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Allergic,

Yur Englesh is pritty goud as far as i kan tel.

pagelion

9:35 am on Dec 5, 2002 (gmt 0)

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Allergic, I agree with you.
It seems to be, that in Germany (where I am from) are more black than white sheep in this SEO-buisness. When searching some german keywords especially around travelling the serps of Google are very spammy. But not only these travelagencies, also some etailer have been promotet by black-sheep, and - I want remind you to the actions in october, where Google deleted some listings from the index due to an article in a german newspaper [sueddeutsche.de], what was admitted by a Google-employee on the SES in munich - they are still working with their spammy methods. (Searching for some products gives you over and over different domains the same products, up to 15 results...annoying!)

The second important point of this article is, that itīs not necessary to submit to more than a few engines or directories. Allways the same: the web is still growing, but there are less searchengines, which are relevant for traffic.

BTW: interesting point in this article is the advice to submit to the search-providers behind AOL and T-Online, after recommending the submit to Google and Lycos. The writer should know, that there are no differences between them!

heini

3:00 pm on Dec 5, 2002 (gmt 0)

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Sorry to be the spoilsport here (hehe), but to me this is your typical mainstream article. On the upside it was neither outright misinformed nor did it approach the topic from a sensationalistic angle.
But where do you see anything interesting or new in that for anybody not totally new to this area?

As to the "aggressiveness" in SEO - I'd rather put it the other way round: In Germany the SEO scene in many aspects lags behind the US/UK scene. Methods and tricks are just slightly oldfashioned more often than not, which makes them more visible to the informed spectator.

On the upside I make the outright claim that in Germany you don't need to do real spam. A good SEO can still bring you on top of nearly every search just by plain good vanilla SEO.

My take is it's often the not so sharp SEOs and even more often the webmasters themselfes who only see a chance to compete when working with oldfashioned spamming methods.