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Deeplinks and PR

What happens with Deeplinks?

         

djgreg

6:12 pm on Nov 17, 2002 (gmt 0)

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Hi,

supposing I have a deeplink (e.g. www.mydomain.com/pages/themes/widget.html) pointing to one of my domains from another domain. Let's say the domain which links to mine has a PR7 . What influences will that have on my PR? Will only the deeplinked page raise tp 6 or will the whole domain raise to 6? Or will it be considered as spam?

troels nybo nielsen

6:39 pm on Nov 17, 2002 (gmt 0)

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As far as I know the mecanism is like this:

If one page with a high PR links to another page with a lower PR, it will tend to raise the PR of the lower ranking page and _only_ that specific page. And it doesn't matter how "deep" any of those two pages is positioned on the website.

And deep linking is not spam, but some webmasters (mostly at newspapers) hate it! :-)

MeditationMan

7:10 pm on Nov 17, 2002 (gmt 0)

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I think troels_nybo_nielsen is right.

Pages have PR rather than sites/domains. Your page would get a boost in PR, and would then pass on some of that boost to all other pages that it's linked to.

I love getting deeplinks. I regard it as a sign of having provided good information. Newspapers don't like it because visitors bypass the adverts, which is a crummy reason in my humble opinion.

buckworks

7:22 pm on Nov 17, 2002 (gmt 0)

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Page rank is calculated page by page, not site by site, so whatever PR benefit your internal page would receive from being linked to would depend on the PR of the page where the link was (which might be different than the other domain's home page). It's even possible for an internal page to acquire a higher page rank than the domain's home page, if enough other sites link directly to it.

If one of your pages earns an increase in PR because other people find it useful and are linking to it, other pages within your site will receive "spillover" benefits. How the PR flows within your site will depend on which pages link to which other pages, how many of your links are internal and how many point out to other sites, etc. Do your best to make sure ALL your pages are thoughtfully optimized, not just the home page, and make sure there is enough navigational information on each page so that if someone enters your site via an internal page, they can get their bearings.

If a site is worried about visitors by-passing ads on the home page or something, I'd say the answer is to place a carefully chosen ad or two on the content page, not to protest about deep-linking!

kfander

7:35 pm on Nov 17, 2002 (gmt 0)

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I have several separate sites as subdomains of one of my main domain. For example:

mydomain.com
mydomain.com/civilwar/
mydomain.com/biblestudy/
mydomain.com/somethingelse/

While my main domain is more of a personal homepage, my subdomains are actual topics that people link to, so some of my subdomains have higher PR than my main domain.

troels nybo nielsen

7:03 am on Nov 18, 2002 (gmt 0)

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In fact I have very much the same construction on one of my domains.

mydomain.dk is really just a personal portal and people do not link to it. They link to my websites:

mydomain.dk/website1/index.htm
mydomain.dk/website2/index.htm

etc.

> I love getting deeplinks. I regard it as a sign of having provided good information. Newspapers don't like it because visitors bypass the adverts....

Ahemmm... err methinks that the animosity against deep links is mainly a question of vanit... err pride, I mean. I happen to have read what some danish newspapermen have written about deep links. A newspaper's website is an integral intellectual construction and should be respected as such. You don't jump straight into the third movement of a Beethoven symphony, do you?

djgreg

8:29 am on Nov 18, 2002 (gmt 0)

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Hm,

if this is the only part i want to hear, I do.
;)

Hagstrom

11:49 am on Nov 18, 2002 (gmt 0)

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I happen to have read what some danish newspapermen have written about deep links.

Danish newspapers don't like deep links. On the other hand Danish web gurus believe that Deep Linking is Good Linking [useit.com]

You don't jump straight into the third movement of a Beethoven symphony, do you?

Yes I do. And when I read a newspaper I always start with the comics' section :)

Check6

12:20 pm on Nov 18, 2002 (gmt 0)

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I love getting deeplinks. I regard it as a sign of having provided good information. Newspapers don't like it because visitors bypass the adverts, which is a crummy reason in my humble opinion.

If they hate deep links, it has very little to do with skipping ads and very much more to do with commercial 3rd parties acting as indexes to their content.

troels nybo nielsen

12:33 pm on Nov 18, 2002 (gmt 0)

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Welcome to WW, Check6

> commercial 3rd parties acting as indexes to their content

Like Google?

Check6

1:47 pm on Nov 18, 2002 (gmt 0)

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Thanks.

> Like Google?

I didn't have Google in mind as they don't charge for access. We don't allow Google to spider, actually we don't allow any spidering within the limits of robots.txt, but with Google News we see that as an appropriate traffic driver and will shortly allow it in once we've got the noarchive meta tag in place.

It's companies like Moreover who are more of a problem, or at least are viewed as one. Mind you last time I checked Moreover used a standard browser User Agent for their spider so being sneaky like that doesn't help their image.

MeditationMan

2:04 pm on Nov 18, 2002 (gmt 0)

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Hi Check6,

If they hate deep links, it has very little to do with skipping ads and very much more to do with commercial 3rd parties acting as indexes to their content.

From Digitalmass [digitalmass.boston.com]

"COPENHAGEN, Denmark -- Challenging the World Wide Web's fundamental premise of linking, a Danish court ordered an Internet news service to stop linking to Web sites of Danish newspapers.

Copenhagen's lower bailiff's court ruled Friday that Newsbooster.com was in direct competition with the newspapers and that the links it provided to specific news articles damaged the value of the newspapers' advertisements..."

troels nybo nielsen

2:11 pm on Nov 18, 2002 (gmt 0)

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I think we are coming a bit off topic. There are other threads that have been discussing these matters.