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Penalized for inbound links

Site was PR3 but now PR0 after inbound-only linkfarming

         

BeetleBailey

9:37 pm on Nov 15, 2002 (gmt 0)

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I used a free link exchange service to gather a large number of low quality inbound links to a site and managed to drive the site rating up to PR3. This week every other page in the site is PR1 or PR2 except the target page, which is at PR0. The outbound "reciprical" links are not even in google and are on an unattached page. Actually I think I can move them to a different site entirely if I like, but why bother, they are invisible to google.

Next step is to link spam someone else and see if I can get them penalized down to PR0, then we'll know for sure if google penalizes for inbound links from link farms.

Shakil

9:48 pm on Nov 15, 2002 (gmt 0)



You fail to mention your position in Serps, either when you were PR3 or Now.

Its not just an ego thing you know.

Its about Quality targeted traffic and making £££

Shak

seindal

12:17 am on Nov 16, 2002 (gmt 0)

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Hi,

I have a site with photos of ancient stuff, including some roman mosaics with slightly erotic content (like naked behinds), and even though it is a serious site on classicial culture, some porn-sites are linking to those pages.

I certainly hope I won't be penalised for that, because there is absolutely nothing I can do about it. I can make the link not work by blocking the referrer, but that won't help me much, I guess.

René.

(The bestiality people still haven't discovered the photo of the statue of the Satyr and the goat (I'm not kidding - those Romans were weird), but one day they will :-)

crash

12:22 am on Nov 16, 2002 (gmt 0)

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I'd be interested to see any proof - but as far as links from other sites, they shouldn't hurt you at all - they may cease to count at some point if something happens to them (say PR0) and if you relied on them, then any boost you saw from them would be removed. Could make it seem like a penalty - but it's really not.

heini

12:32 am on Nov 16, 2002 (gmt 0)

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Collecting a large number of low quality inbound links is definitely not a safe strategy.

>I used a free link exchange service

That's what you couldn't do to a competitor.

djgreg

8:01 am on Nov 16, 2002 (gmt 0)

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I only can repeat what Heini said.
Don't try to push your site in the SERPS using a free link exchange. Made very very very bad expieriences with that. ;)

troels nybo nielsen

8:35 am on Nov 16, 2002 (gmt 0)

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I recently registered a site of mine in a danish directory. I took a look at some of the other newly registered sites and one of them was a linkfarm.

It was by far the most visited of the new sites and one would guess that quite a lot of the visitors actually registered there. And what will they get? A lot of hit-and-run clicks. And a penalty by Google.

djgreg

1:23 pm on Nov 16, 2002 (gmt 0)

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That's life ;)

ikbenhet1

3:27 pm on Nov 16, 2002 (gmt 0)

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"that's something you can't do to you competittor"

So, i cannot enter my competitors url in a linkfarm exchange and send visitors to that link-url throug javascript, so i don't get banned or so?
Why not? I Don't see the problem. You can use one of your own email addresses, send visitors and voila.
By sending visitors to that url, ad's/url's on other sites will point to his site. The more visitors you sent, the more (bad)sites will show his ad/url.

And if G bans this for bad inbound links, next update G will se the new links. Or am i wrong? I don't see why it can't be done.

djgreg

3:49 pm on Nov 16, 2002 (gmt 0)

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ikbenhet1:

I don't think that this is possible, because on every linkfarm you have to build a linksite on your own homepage.
How would you manage to set up a link site on your competitor's homepage? You would have to hack his FTP. Are you doing this?

ciml

3:56 pm on Nov 16, 2002 (gmt 0)

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If the competitor enters into a free link exchange then he or she risks linking to a 'bad neighbourhood'.

In order to get the other site an automatic penalty then you would need to convince them to link back to the pages that Google doesn't like.

BeetleBailey, often people think they have a penalty when the problem is something else (the WebmasterWorld site search [searchengineworld.com] can offer many examples of this). However, if you joined a link farm with links that are invisible to google but visible to other users then a penalty would be a possibility.

BeetleBailey

2:51 pm on Nov 20, 2002 (gmt 0)

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On the link exchange I am using, I have the "links" page on the free home page my ISP gives me. They don't seem to care where on the web I put the links page, but the inbound links from the exchange all point to my targeted website.

kcartlidge

4:41 pm on Nov 20, 2002 (gmt 0)

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Is there any way to find the PR without the Google toolbar being installed?
I use Phoenix and it's a pain having to switch to IE just to get a site's ranking details.