Sneaky way to get good PR

And I'm not talking about Public Relations!

[vibgyor79]

To be noted:

Geocities has a PR of 8.
My main website is all about, say, picasso paintings.

I will -

1) Sign up for Geocities and create TEN websites on paintings (all with different content)

2) Wait for atleast 3 months during which Google will crawl my geocities pages and assign PR to all my ten websites.

(I have noticed that all three of my seven year old "Netscape Composer" created websites about myself, about my dog and about my college project all have PageRank of either 6 or 7. I am assuming that it is because it is a Geocities hosted website. I don't think that anybody would have linked to my website about my college project!)

3) Once all my 10 Geocities hosted websites get a PR of 6 or 7, I will put a link to my main site (yeah, my picasso paiting site).

Question:

Won't this increase the PR of my main site?
If no, why?
If yes, what prevents others from doing this?

[topr8]

i think that the "pr" of the geocities pages that you are seeing is a toolbar estimate of the page based on the pr of the geocities homepage - it doesn't correspond to the actual pr.

try searching for

link:urlofmygeoocitiespage on google

and see how many backlinks you have which are passing real pr to the page.

[vibgyor79]

Did a search for link:www.geocities.com/blahblah/blahblah/myusername/index.htnl

(That's the URL for my Geocities site)

Google says "Your search did not match any documents"

So what does it mean? And what is "true PR" or "real PR" as you put it?

[europeforvisitors]

Bad idea. You could get penalized or banned by Google. Focus on content and quality inbound links instead.

[djgreg]

What europeforvisitors said. And the PR of your Geocities Homepages is only an estimate.
If they are not found in Google they have no PR.
The PR only shows because they are in the folder system of geocities.

[topr8]

Google says "Your search did not match any documents"

this means that no pages (with a pr above the google backlink criteria pr3/4) are linking to you - so no pr is being passed onto you,

as others have said this strategy is a waste of time ... focus on making content for google - think big is beautiful (not page size but number of pages)

[vibgyor79]

I am personally NOT interested in the "idea" because 100% of my sales are made by my affiliates. For my other sites, I use pay per click search engines. So, basically, I am immune to Google's search engine results quirks :)

I'm just curious to know more about Google PR (and how it can be artificially inflated).

You could get penalized or banned by Google

Yes. Only if I'm caught. How can somebody catch me if I can create websites at Geocities anonymously?

Note: I made this post before I read djreg's and topr8's postings

[europeforvisitors]

Only if I'm caught. How can somebody catch me if I can create websites at Geocities anonymously?

Famous last words. :-)

Ask yourself:

1) Do you know more about SEO tricks than Google's antispam cops do?

2) Do you know more about SEO tricks than your competitors do?

If the answer to either question is "no," you'll be cruisin' for a bruisin' when you try to outsmart the experts.

[x_m]

Once more time: This doesn't work. What you see on the toolbar after creating new site in geocities is just google's guess, not real PR. Google will not know about your site until it gets linked from somewhere. It won't be found and crawled by bot just because it is on geocities, it must be linked from somewhere ;)
XM

[tristan]

to vibgyor79:
you're underestimating Google :)

[djgreg]

It would be found! But it has no PR.

[ciml]

A sneaky way to get good PR would be to find out who's in charge of a PR8 home page and ask them for a link. That's the only way you're going to benefit from their PR.

Most people with PR8 home pages don't sell links or join link farms. Despite the press attention, PageRank reduces spam most of the time.

[jk3210]

>>Yes. Only if I'm caught. How can somebody catch me if I can create websites at Geocities anonymously?<<

I foresee a large mushroom cloud somewhere in your future.

[vibgyor79]

Fellas! Hold your fire! My Google SEO skills are limited to submitting a site to Google using a top secret tool - their Submit URL form :)
And I got a PR of 6 for doing that.

Anyway, now that you mention that it won't work, I can start thinking about "sneakier" ways to outsmart Google. I will make a post here when I come with something.

[europeforvisitors]

Anyway, now that you mention that it won't work, I can start thinking about "sneakier" ways to outsmart Google. I will make a post here when I come with something.

I'm sure we'll all look forward to hearing the results. :-)

[taxpod]

Really, vibgyor79, you need to understand the distinction between real PR and the toolbar estimate. Once you grasp that, you'll see that the rest of this discussion is irrelevant.

I can appreciate what you say regarding the use of affiliates and PPC. But take what you have from these sources and add a couple thousand visitors from Google and friends, and you'll be making more.

I don't believe you can get legitimate PR6 by using the secret submission form! You need inbound links of all sorts to sustain a real PR of 6.

Try seeing if your PR6 Geocities site is cached. If not, PR does not equal 6.

[northweb]

What are some of the other ways to reach a PR6 value

how many backlinks would you need in a competitive market.

northweb

[vibgyor79]

Whoops. I forgot to mention that I sent a number of requests to other webmasters to link to my site. Link: search for my actual website (not the geocities hosted one) shows 22 results.

Anyway, I feel that it is very difficult for Non-SEO webmasters to get any decent traffic from Google for highly competitive keywords. For me, PPC advertising is everything.

[internetbrothers]

Hi guys,

I think it works with geocities,
As a matter of fact I had a site which was hosted by geocities( I mean the same free homepage) and some how got page rank of 6 , How ever the only place it was submited was dmoz. my site is at the top of Yahoo results . Now a company is paying me a monthly fee to forward all traffic to his site.

Hey good is'nt it?

[Helpmebe1]

shhhhhhhhh...not that I have done this.. but I see some chick who has a couple of sites all linked off her page and shes scores..but ya know what.. with this post being created.. its history so I wont even waste my time to go through all the trouble of seeing if this works..cause it no longer will anyway...sticky mail..it works great! haha.. well I am the honest SEO and I have decent rank this month.. atleast I will sleep better.