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Google DNS update ...

... how long in your experience?

         

mat

9:31 am on Oct 26, 2002 (gmt 0)

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Have posted a few times regarding a problem with Googlebot not spidering post an IP change.

I know that this is a known issue, and I've read the threads, but was just wondering if anyone had any specific examples of just how long it took G to update DNS records post a change of IP?

Be nice to see some light at the end of the tunnel, or at least to know that the end of the tunnel still lies in the next continent.

Mat

KakenBetaal

9:57 am on Oct 26, 2002 (gmt 0)

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Couple of days for my site. Someone else here had like a month, for some strange reason.

sahara

10:49 am on Oct 26, 2002 (gmt 0)



I'm afraid it took at least 6 weeks for Google to find my new IP - it was driving me crazy and I must have bored everyone on these boards with it. I was worried that there was a fault - but it is simply Google's own IP database being very slow to refresh - it will sort itself out.

Tropical Island

11:36 am on Oct 26, 2002 (gmt 0)

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We switched 2 sites on Oct. 6 and as far as we can tell Googlebot has not been to the new servers. Too bad because we were getting freshed every couple of days. Hope it finds us soon - getting more than a little nervous.

EclipseGuy

1:45 pm on Oct 26, 2002 (gmt 0)



Three weeks for my site now, me not happy

liana

6:01 pm on Oct 26, 2002 (gmt 0)

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I moved my site to a different host because my old host got a "bad neighbourhood" classification. My site got penalized (pr reduction) due to shared hosting (virtual hosting)

It's been more than 2 weeks... So far i have not see GOOGLE spider. I hope that eventually it will find my domain again.

Now that I moved to a different host will I regain my old pr?

Some people tell me that I will automatically receive my original pr back because I no longer share the i.p. address with penalized host.

Others tell me it's not enough to move to a different host.
Apparently you have to

1) move to a new host (I've done that already)

2) write a letter to GOOGLE, PRAY they do not delete your letter and beg for yourn life

Who should I listen?

kevin_m

6:32 pm on Oct 26, 2002 (gmt 0)

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I didn't realize google cached the ip address, that explains why I haven't seen googlebot in a couple weeks. I recently changed hosts mid month hoping not to miss an update. I am still keeping my fingers crossed because I made a bunch of updates before the switch and I think they were indexed.

Matt_Wade

12:41 am on Oct 27, 2002 (gmt 0)

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I changed IPs in mid august, and google never skipped a beat. It was there spidering my site the day after the change....Strange that others are experiencing problems...

bobmark

5:00 am on Oct 27, 2002 (gmt 0)

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No, Matt, it's strange you're not. Google caches IP address for the daily fresh bot so usually you lose that as soon as your IP address changes. I wonder if what you got next day was the full crawl. My understanding is on the monthly crawl, Googlebot follows the url each time so, presumably, if your site name is in the crawl queue it picks up any IP changes and updates the dns cache.

annej

7:41 am on Oct 27, 2002 (gmt 0)

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Hmmm, I just changed to a new hosting service a few days ago and I notice my site is listed as Index of / rather than the title and of course the cache is old. I can live with that for a while as long as I don't lose my PR and good search placements. Does that go down if the transfer to the new IP takes too long?

Anne

mat

9:07 am on Oct 27, 2002 (gmt 0)

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Thanks for all the replies. Mixed experiences.

My understanding is on the monthly crawl, Googlebot follows the url each time

I can very happily live with that. It's nice having the freshbot, but it's icing on the cake. As long as G goes off and does a DNS lookup for the main crawl, I'm a happy camper. However, that doesn't tie in with all the replies, does it? The six weeks quoted above would mean that the IP change wasn't picked up by the successive crawl.

Ah well, here's hoping and praying.

Mat

smatsmax

9:25 am on Nov 27, 2002 (gmt 0)

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My hosting company decided to move from us based to the uk.
The move ment ok, but i too now find myself in limbo.
Waiting for googlebot...., no sign after a week

I have lots of good positions and am very nervous that the sites will drop out next update.

Interestingly i am still getting a fresh date, although i know ggb has not visited, anyone else see this?
Is this because ggb is still visiting the old location?

I've resubmitted... so hopefully.... fingers crossed

SeventiesMartin

9:57 am on Nov 27, 2002 (gmt 0)

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I moved hosting about a week ago.

Thanks to the advice on this forum I left the old site on the server. I can see from the logfiles that it is still being visited daily by google.

When I make changes I move the changed and new pages to the old site on the old server as well as the new.

Using ftp that doesn't do a dns lookup means I can still ftp to the old site and keep it up to date, as well as retrieve the log files to check for spider activity. Google and Wisenut are the only ones that have not switched to the new server. Though Inktomi is spidering both?

If you can follow that route then you can make the switch without risking your SERPs.

smatsmax

10:01 am on Nov 27, 2002 (gmt 0)

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I dont have access to the old location
I would worry that that would might cause duplicate issues
I probably worry too much....

SeventiesMartin

10:15 am on Nov 27, 2002 (gmt 0)

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It wouldn't cause duplicate issues.

For instance, google keeps visiting the old site because it doesn't know of the new ones existance, when it does find the new one, it will stop visiting the old.

Only Inktomi is visiting both, but I think the regular spider is visiting one, but the paid for 48 hour spider is visiting the other, so no problem there.

Basically, a spider can only hold one ip address, so it won't know there are 2 sites.

Once all activity has ceased for a few of weeks then the old site can go for good.

If you are showing fresh dates then I would guess your hosting company has left the old site up.