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I need a helping hand to get my sites on google since the yahoo change has basically dropped by business by 60-70%.
What should I do to get listed without getting banned from google.
Please help guys, I really need it.
Does any of those have a ODP listing?
however from Googles point of view, surely 5 mirror/duplicate sites operated by 1 organisation/company leading the user to think otherwise is exactly the sort of thing that Google would NOT want.
like I said dont want to be spoiling others fun, but I really am worried by this post.
Shak
That presumably implies that they are already indexed by Google and that packetproductions wants to increase their PR.
Best overview is Brett's Successful Site in 12 Months with Google Alone [webmasterworld.com] post. It does not really require 12 months do be successful, but you cannot do it overnight either.
I do not believe that any of the sites come up with google or listed within the Google System. They are not in the ODP.
The sites are not mirrors, they are all different but they share the same category. The sites are owned by different entities. They all offer the same broad information with each site offering more details on specific branches of the overall subject.
I could make whatever changes that I need to make on the sites. I would be willing to sacrifice some sites as to aid one of the sites to gain a good position.
Next step: Try getting links, with ODP a top priority.
Also you should try to do some good old SEO work on thos e sites.
Take a look at the top sites under the keywords you're targeting. Study them, and make note of the major differences between your sites and theirs. Don't copy their content... just see how their page structure differs from yours.
Also, if your PR is only a 3, you need to recruit more incoming links from non-affiliated sites.
Also, if your PR is only a 3, you need to recruit more incoming links from non-affiliated sites.
Yes, this is the main point, which is why you are unlikely to be able to simultaneously promote 5 similar domains. I have 2 in one category and it's really hard to get links for the second one, when it's obvious both sites are owned by me.
In fact, Google hit the second site with a sledgehammer in the last update. Basically because, I think, we hadn't done enough work on it to justify a decent position. Now we just have 1.
Here's the interesting thing. The only domain still ranking well in google was our first ever, and didn't have keywords in the domain name. It's Yahoo ranking sucked because of this, but there is a lesson there...Google likes sites you have been working on for a while, whilst Yahoo never looked at your site again once it was listed.
I was thinking of recruting the sites that I currently have in the category and placing text links on them to one of the sites. Basically linking 4 of the sites to the one that I would like to have come up on google.
Does that sound correct?
The best strategy is a star configuration. Once site in the centre with other sites on the periphery linking into it. Don't link between the other sites, and if you want to be 100% safe, don't link back from the main site.
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Link the 4 sites to the one that I want indexed.
2. Do not link back to any of the sites from the one the others are linking to.
3. Do not link the other 4 to each other.
4. Place a link within each page of each site to the index page of the site and then place one outgoing link to the site that I want indexed well on Google.
5. Get the sites listed on ODP
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How about keywords in the title and body of the html.
Should I place keywords on all the pages of each site or just the main page?
Otherwise, check out [searchengineworld.com...]
How about keywords in the title and body of the html.
Don't expect to get much of a ranking without 'em... just be sure not to overdo it. Check out the top ranking sites in your niche and click on their cached results on Google to get an idea of what is reasonable in the way of frequency and positioning.
Use them naturally and in a way that is valuable to your user and you won't have to worry too much about penalties.
On that note, keep in mind that your Title needs to be more than just a keyword trophy... it will be the deciding factor in whether your site gets clicked on once it does make it into the SERPs.
Make sure it's short, sweet, and to the point. (directly targeting your ideal visitor)
Also, keywords in the anchor text of the links pointing to any page is a defining factor in Google. Do what you can with off site links, and certainly take advantage of this with the links that are within your own sites when linking.
Should I place keywords on all the pages of each site or just the main page?
Most folks target different keywords and key phrase combinations for each page. At the very least have each page title be unique to reflect the page's actual content.
packetproductions, you're really asking us from scratch how to get a site to do well in Google. You're right about using the words that people might find you by in the title and body of the html. The deeper pages should use the keywords relevant to that page; this should give you more entry points to the site and it should help Google point the relevant searchers to you.
Brett's Successful Site in 12 Months with Google Alone [webmasterworld.com] article is the best place to start from. The theme pyramid structure that Slade mentions is also very helpful if the site is large.
If you want a site to do well in Google, then you should be prepared to build its profile over time. For a quick fix, AdWords is a more appropriate solution IMO.
