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Google testing algos?

www2 is differing from www1

         

whizkid

4:35 am on Oct 17, 2002 (gmt 0)

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While I don't know since when, both indexes are differing, their algorithms, are *very* different. I have some case studies I always use to compare algorithms, and the changes are drastic, for example in anchor text importance.

mack

5:54 am on Oct 17, 2002 (gmt 0)

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I think google have different algos on their databases for testing purposes. perhaps they are testing a new algo for the next update.

There are slight differenced in www1 and www2 but this is just a constant change that google seams to have adopted over the past few months.

hooloovoo22

2:07 pm on Oct 17, 2002 (gmt 0)

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not only that, but maybe somebody could explain why I'm seeing the following:

i have two connections, a dsl and a t1, and when i'm on one of the lans it shows different serps than the other for the same exact term. is the update not uniform across all google's servers now?

creative craig

2:11 pm on Oct 17, 2002 (gmt 0)

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May just be the everflux acting up a little more than usual!

Travoli

2:19 pm on Oct 17, 2002 (gmt 0)

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Been going on for a long, long time. check this out [webmasterworld.com]

creative craig

2:24 pm on Oct 17, 2002 (gmt 0)

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There are alot of differences that I am seeing at the moment in www2 and www3!

Oh well, just the everflux

hooloovoo22

2:40 pm on Oct 17, 2002 (gmt 0)

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thanks travoli, does seem to be a recurring theme. it makes it difficult to know what the majority of users are actually seeing though and where you really stand since this is happening constantly and not just around update time

creative craig

3:56 pm on Oct 17, 2002 (gmt 0)

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If this is only a testing algo phase they are going through I hope that it doesnt migrate into what will happen in the "big dance"

I used to rank number one for my site URL, which some people may say of course you dingbat where else would you be! Well at the moment on www2 and www3 I am number 3 with the top two links being links to forums that I have posted in asking for a link exchange :(

Another sign that a little more junk surfaces in the SERP's. Hope this doesnt carry over.

Craig

rfgdxm1

12:30 am on Oct 18, 2002 (gmt 0)

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One thing I have to say is this is everflux on a really large scale than I'm used to. For example, on one keyword one of my sites is #56 on www, and #33 on www2.

mhildebr

12:54 am on Oct 18, 2002 (gmt 0)

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I was in NYC this week and got different search results checking locally thru the hotel's high speed connection versus using remote control to log into my home office computer. Same search term ... different results for different cities at the same time.

whizkid

1:15 am on Oct 18, 2002 (gmt 0)

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It is not Everflux, trust me. (I am not going to check it again today.)

Chef_Brian

1:39 am on Oct 18, 2002 (gmt 0)

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Yep ...

Some *definate* movement right now. Not the monthly update but seams a bit different than the everflux as well. I launched a site about three weeks ago and it has been hanging on to the 10th and the 11th positions on the serp's since the last update. Tonight it jumped to the number three position ;-)

Intresting because the site has no pagerank yet and it is beating sites that are pagerank 4, and 3 right now. I will mention that this site ranked number two before this last "crazy" update. Possibly google is working on a new algo?

Chef Brian

Paully

2:15 am on Oct 18, 2002 (gmt 0)



u guys r trippen...

teeceo

2:43 am on Oct 18, 2002 (gmt 0)

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question! when you add pages to your site, do they come up in google searches when found by googlebot or at the next update?

teeceo.

whizkid

3:05 am on Oct 18, 2002 (gmt 0)

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I don't like to talk much, but thanks for the feedback.

Everflux can be recognized by two factors, right? The date in the new results, and results in one index which don't appear in the other. Then it was *not* Everflux.

(I won't say more, because I don't have the time to investigate it further. But I have noticed changes in the algorihms two times (in the last month), -the first only lasted one day-.) I have only investigated the fact since last month.

rfgdxm1

3:06 am on Oct 18, 2002 (gmt 0)

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>u guys r trippen...

While a quick check of the site in my profile might lead you to that conclusion, I assure you I am 100% sober. ;) There is absolutely no logical reason, based on typical everflux, for that site of mine to suddenly jump from position #56 to #33 on this keyword. Other than correct a trivial editing error a few days back on that page (which didn't increase frequency of they keyword in question, or any keywords I care about for that matter), I haven't made any changes on that page to justify a higher ranking. I'm not doing SEO at all, yet Google is semi-magically saying this site deserves a huge boost in the SERPs. Google is doing something.

mhildebr

3:07 am on Oct 18, 2002 (gmt 0)

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The new pages I have added have not been found by Google yet.

rfgdxm1

3:16 am on Oct 18, 2002 (gmt 0)

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One additional note to my last comment. That keyword in question, which should be obvious from my profile, is one where pretty much none of the other sites in the top 100 would be expected to change content anything but rarely, if ever. The changes I am seeing are so dramatic I would expect to see sort of thing happen only during the dance. A backlink check on Yahoo! definitely indicates the dance has not begun. Thus, I'm thinking a mid-update algo tweak is involved here.

Eric_Jarvis

11:37 am on Oct 18, 2002 (gmt 0)

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definitely something serious...we were up from 23 to 16 on a competitive single word...and went to the top on a huge range of multiple word terms...then back where we were again this morning

there is also a huge, but sadly brief, jump in our traffic over the last couple of day

I hope that, whatever it was, they do it again for longer :)

ikbenhet1

12:03 pm on Oct 18, 2002 (gmt 0)

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funny thing i noticed:

when i typed: www.<mysite>.nl/keyword.htm in google responded:
No results found. meaning site not indexed?

then i searched for keyword.htm 'something' and the site was in SERPs 1st results page.

probably everflux, but still weird.