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Reporting problem results.

Does it work?

         

Marcos

10:43 pm on Oct 3, 2002 (gmt 0)

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A few days ago I tried the Google´s spammers report, as offered by Googleguy. I found a easy target, a 1 page link farm at #1 (sorry you guy :) ). A few days later, the site dropped from #1 to -#50. The site had no value at all, and probably was not even at the top 100 before the update, so I wonder why did it drop. It may be the spammer report, but it could be they are trying to change the algo on-line right now, while keeping the present update.
Have any of you see something similar? What do you think?

Jane_Doe

11:03 pm on Oct 3, 2002 (gmt 0)

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1) I think they are constantly tweaking the algo.

2) My guess is they read the spam reports very closely. Googleguy has brought up in his posts a number of times to use the spam reports. I don't know why he would keep bringing that up if they didn't really read them. It's also interesting to note that he has suggested we put in there something about "Googleguy" or "webmasterworld" so they know the reports are coming from webmsterworld readers -- people who have a high probability of being SEOs, if not spammers themselves. You know the old saying, it takes one to know one.

A network of interlinked spam sites I reported was also dropped recently. It could be coincidence as a lot of sites have gotten dropped, but I suspect the spam report certainly didn't hurt.

TWhalen

11:52 pm on Oct 3, 2002 (gmt 0)

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I used the Google spam reporting tool to report on a site I found about 8 months ago that was using blatant spam techniques.

I reported the site between updates, and the site's offending pages were removed before the next update.
It took about 1-2 weeks.

So, its my belief that YES, they do work.
(as long as you are reporting a legitimate spam issue, and not just trying to hurt your competition, I'd imagine...)

Chico_Loco

11:53 pm on Oct 3, 2002 (gmt 0)

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I'd say its just coincidence..

I posted about a report I made to google here recently, but for some reason one of the mods locked the thread

Anyway. I've reported a particular site to Google many times that has 3 domains (mirrors) all of which have entry doorway pages with hidden text, 1x1 pixel linked images, invisible links (in the form of dots) in a feeble attempt to increase PR.

All 3 mirrors are cross linked with multiple spam techniques and so far Google has not even acknowledged the problem.

I'd say those spam reports get to Google alright, but I don't think they get read, I think they go into one big account which hasn't been touched in months but only exists for the purpose of their records..

IMHO (which tends to be right!)

Sasquatch

1:31 am on Oct 4, 2002 (gmt 0)



I'd say those spam reports get to Google alright, but I don't think they get read, I think they go into one big account which hasn't been touched in months but only exists for the purpose of their records..

IMHO (which tends to be right!)

But is most likely wrong in this case.

If you read what GoogleGuy says on this matter, it is that they look at the reports and try to use them to fix the algo to automatically catch the worst offenders each month.

Only on rare occasions, when they cannot fix the algo to catch them and it is a major offender will they apply manual penalties.

Remember, google is still a very small company in terms of body count. And a large percentage of those people are not experts on HTML, secretaries, maintenance, management, legal, marketing, sales.

It may be annoying that they do not take care of each individual complaint, but I bet they so look at each site and they work their way through the queue.

bnhall

2:59 am on Oct 4, 2002 (gmt 0)

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Here's a link to GoogleGuy's most recent comment on the subject at [webmasterworld.com...] He clearly says
that the report will be read.

Jane_Doe

3:19 am on Oct 4, 2002 (gmt 0)

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> Well, It may be more of a public relations effort than a real spam concern.

Perhaps, but I doubt it. I used to be an IT manager. The more people you can have testing an application and reporting results, the better.

Sasquatch has a good point. QA staff cost money, especially in the Bay Area. Google is getting QA help from SEO experts with their spam reports free of charge. They may not read all of the spam reports, depending on their staff size and how many reports they get, but I bet they read a representative sample.

Marcos

4:34 am on Oct 4, 2002 (gmt 0)

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>The more people you can have testing an application and reporting
>results, the better.

>Google is getting QA help from SEO experts with their spam reports
>free of charge.

Well, yes, make perfect sense. After all, we are the superusers. No group is in a better position to do that, probably not even google staff.

Visit Thailand

5:49 am on Oct 4, 2002 (gmt 0)

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We may be in a great position to help, but it does worry me as it is so open to abuse itself.

I hate to say this but the first post the spammer was called a 'target' which would indicate that people go out of their ways to look for spam.

May I ask what made you decide it was a link farm and not some innocent and not so educated webmaster with a far too healthy links page?