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Finally ranked, thanks to this site, but strange

         

charpress

6:12 pm on Sep 27, 2002 (gmt 0)

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I was finally crawled by Google and most of my key word searches turn up at or near the top of Google searches. Until yesterday, I was not there at all except for paid sponsor ads. I owe a lot of this to tips I have learned here, especially on getting good incoming links.

Today, I started getting rankings. But it is strange. I have a principle site which is www.xxxxxxx.com. I have a parked site that points to the principle site which is really just an abbreviation of the name of the site: www.xx.com. The abbreviation, when you use to to go to the site is ranked 4 while the site itself when you go there by spelling it out, is ranked 2. Anyone have an explanation for this?

Also, different pages on the site will have different rankings, some not ranked at all. I guess that is normal.

Here is a tip of my own for folks trying to get crawled and/or high rankings. I bought a banner ad on our local newspaper's web site. The web site is ranked very high. It could be a coincidence, but I was crawled within 24 hours of putting that banner ad online.

sw8296

7:07 pm on Sep 27, 2002 (gmt 0)

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I was going to start a new thread but this seems like a good place to post.

My site has just achieved index status thanks to this update.

www.mysite.com * - PR5
www.mysite.com/index.php - PR4

*not my actual site, names changed to protect the innocent etc.
(last time i posted mysite.com it was edited to example.com!)

It's like google is treating the 2 as separate pages. There is a different cache for each (a few days different) and the backlinks are different for each. Does Google not understand .php extensions the same way it might .htm or .html?

Slade

9:22 pm on Sep 27, 2002 (gmt 0)

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sw8296:
Google understands your php pages just fine. Actually GoogleGuy recently posted that dynamic pages were dandy for Google. Here's what's really happening...

Someone links to your site: [mysite.com...]
You link to your home page: [mysite.com...]

Those are different links, even though the point to the same page. To get the best bang for the buck, you should set up a HTTP redirect on one of those pages and have it automatically send them to the other. Make sure you use a real HTTP redirect, not a meta refresh or javascript. (search for "php header location")

Basically, pick one, it doesn't matter which one, just pick one. On your site, use only that link. Google is picking up both as seperate pages on your site, so they are being ranked accordingly. A redirect will allow you take advantage of all that PR on one page!

charpress:
First question: Is www.xxxxxx.com the exact same site as www.xx.com? I mean does a link to a page on one look exactly like a page on the other? If so, you might be committing a search engine sin... duplicate content.(this could get both sites banned)

If you mean for the two sites to be actually seperate, with their own content, leave them as they are, you're fine. Otherwise, set up redirects(like above) to point people to the official domain.

Both:
The differences in PR you are seeing are because a certain number of sites link to your first site/page, and a certain other number link to your other site/page. If they are supposed to be the same, your overall PR could be higher by bringing them together. If they are not supposed to be the same, just work on getting more links to the pages that you need PR on.

sw8296

10:06 pm on Sep 27, 2002 (gmt 0)

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Thanks for that Slade.

I understand that Google can read dynamic content. The reason I asked whether .php was treated differently to .htm was because another site I have has the exact same backlinks, page rank, cache everything for www.xxx.com and www.xxx.com/index.htm!

Regardless of that, I will look in to the possibility of getting the redirect set up. Every page on my site points to the main page using relative path of index.php so hopefully it can be set up to point there. Thanks.

added:
OK I'm a little confused now....
I can see how the server redirect works, and can do that without problems....except one.

If I put it in index.php where am I redirecting it to?
If I am wanting to redirect it to index.php, where do I put the redirect?
ie. what is the "other page" to /index.php?

charpress

3:38 am on Sep 28, 2002 (gmt 0)

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Slade:

The home domain is www.xxxxx.com. The other domain name is just a DNS pointer to the home domain. They aren't two different sites. Do you see this as a problem?