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Dynamic Pages DO Get 'Real' Page Rank - Maybe this is new?

         

Grumpus

11:36 am on Sep 27, 2002 (gmt 0)

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For months, the debate has raged (sometimes hot, sometimes quietly in the background).
Reference Thread #1 [webmasterworld.com]

There are countless other ones out there too if you search for "dynamic PR".

An early Sept Quote from Google Guy:

- PageRank is on a page-by-page basis, so the number of slashes don't matter
- Writing dynamic urls as if they were static used to be the "right way" to present dynamic urls, but that's changing, at least for Google. Google is getting better about crawling dynamic urls, and we'd prefer to see dynamic urls in all their glory instead of written as if they were static. You'll see an increasing number of hosts where we could crawl deeply into a site through all kinds of dynamic urls. Google was pretty much the first to crawl dynamic urls, and we want to do it right without causing webmasters to rework their site. Of course, if you have a url with 15 parameters and only two of them actually mean anything, it's always a good idea to shorten a url whenever possible by trimming out the unneeded parameters.

Changing dynamic urls to appear static will be less important over time as Google crawls dynamic urls better. We also estimate host load by taking account whether a url is dynamic or not. Keeping dynamic urls written as dynamic will help us to estimate the load for your server and keep a bot from hitting your server too often.

Now, in the past, I could never get a single page in my site, other than my root page, to show me the standard "Cache/Similar/Linkto/Contain the Term" page on Google. I always got the "If the URL is valid, click here" page.

With this update, though, I'm seeing that several (not nearly all, but a few) of my pages are showing the way they should. Even if there are no pages in the "linkto" report, several are showing. (Go ahead and try it - site's in my Profile - you might need to run in www2 or 3 to get it to work).

The Google Directory seems to have been updated with the new stuff (at least the PR bars for my pages have changed). It seems that the page only gets the linkto page if it's PR is 5 or more, so I can't tell if this is new, or just because my PR had a nice jump this month. (I still haven't seen the new PR in my bar, yet, but the google directory shows a half green bar on several of the pages that I found links to).

Another thing that seemed to be in question for a bit: Will the PR vary between:
domain.com/page.asp?ID=1 and domain.com/page.asp?ID=2 or is it treated as one page: domain.com/page.asp?

I can confirm that each dynamic page is a separate entity on Google.

Again, I can't tell if this is new, or if it's just because of my site finally getting a nice PR boost this month.

I have a question for folks who have static sites, if you could answer them, that would be great...

Does a deep page in your site need to have a certain PR to get a "linkto/show cache/show similar" page on Google as mine do?

Cheers and I hope some other folks with Dynamic sites will have a look at their own and help me see if this is new, or if we really need to get our internal pages up to PR5 to get it to show backward links.

G.

Brett_Tabke

3:10 am on Oct 7, 2002 (gmt 0)

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Thanks for sharing the experiences Grumpus.

Yes, it seems to be a pr thresh hold before 'similar' items are shown in a cgi environment.