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does Webtrendslive offend Google

         

EAHunt

10:32 pm on Sep 18, 2002 (gmt 0)

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Was wondering if using the for Webtrendslive causes any problem with google. I look in the archives, but found no discussion about possible problems.

Hawkgirl

10:41 pm on Sep 18, 2002 (gmt 0)

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As far as I know, no. We had it running for a while and it didn't seem to cause any problems for us.

WebGuerrilla

10:50 pm on Sep 18, 2002 (gmt 0)

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It's just a chunk of JS that Google ignores. It doesn't cause any problems.

billy_t9

11:34 pm on Sep 18, 2002 (gmt 0)

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could you be a little more specific about the problems that you might have......

jatar_k

11:45 pm on Sep 18, 2002 (gmt 0)

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no problems at all. I have a few clients that use it.

EAHunt

11:54 pm on Sep 18, 2002 (gmt 0)

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well, to be honest, we have been completely dropped from the index, after ranking #1 for over a year. No changes on the site. So now I am disecting the site and trying to find any possible problems. Never had any problems and it has really checked out fine. No server problems that we can see. One duplicate description meta tag, and we did have our manual upload to two different directories (lots of duplicate pages with links back to the site) we have since put a robots.txt to keep it from spidering that area. So, while waiting for the update, I am obsessing with why this happened.

Very few inbound links. And if this is what it is, then we have been working hard at getting "relevant" sites to link back to us.

My partner was just wondering. Cause I was the yo yo who decided to put some sites on webtrends

So I sitting here wishing and hoping and praying and well,,,

Marcia

12:46 am on Sep 19, 2002 (gmt 0)

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>manual upload to two different directories (lots of duplicate pages with links back to the site)

It's easy to forget, but we should all be more careful about duplicates and exlude pages until they're ready, then remove the others.

Wish you the best for the update, we'll be having one thead again to all watch the update together, so keep us all posted. But getting back to the orignal topic here, it doesn't seem that Webtrends has anything to do with it.

EAHunt

3:30 am on Sep 19, 2002 (gmt 0)

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Used Robohelp to write our software manual. I am not the technodweeb, but we use I think it is called host header for ftp. All my sites have the same ftp ip address and then I change a directory to get to the site I want to go to. Robohelp is not clear on how to set this up, I upload the site and it did not go to the url I thought it had, so I called for support and they took me through it. I thought it never made it to the site. I never realized all 400 pages ended up in the root of the site. Since the site has been #1-4 for the past year I have had no reason to check it (what a jerk statement - but a month ago that's what I thought). So when I found us dropped, I looked and found that problem. manual.mysite.com takes you to the mysite.com/manual/default.htm. So I had about 400 pages in the route and in the /manual directory. Oh the other thing is that we have our url links on every page so that they can get back to www.mysite.com or www.myothersite.com.

So now I have a Robots.txt in the root for exluding /manual and I cleaned up the root and got rid of the duplicate pages.

But from what I have gathered from the archives, this is not in itself enough to get banned. But I can't find any other reason sooooo, again, I'll just wait for the dance (coming soon I hope cause these late nights are killing me)

Marcia

3:38 am on Sep 19, 2002 (gmt 0)

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Sounds like there might have been a technical issue involved. Make sure you have a few quality links pointing to your site pretty darn soon so that if it doesn't turn up this time it'll get in on the next crawl with some good inbound links showing.

EAHunt

3:41 am on Sep 19, 2002 (gmt 0)

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working like a dog to get it done. Thanks

onebaldguy

3:50 am on Sep 19, 2002 (gmt 0)

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I was also concerned about WebTrends affecting Google rankings. I figured that if you put the script in a file and called for it when you had a visitor to a page, then it should be fine. However, there is also a NOSCRIPT tag that has a unique URL which is in your HTML. I think this URL could be used to connect your various sites (if you are tracking across various domains). It is not necessary to include this NORSCIPT if you are not concerned about missing the reporting on about 3% of your visitors.

We don't do cross linking, this is implemented on various clients sites, so I guess it shouldn't be a concern, but Google traffic is so important, that we don't want to risk anything by doing something that could somehow be interpreted as cross linking (probably just paranoia).

onlineleben

7:46 am on Sep 19, 2002 (gmt 0)

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I didn't have any problems with including WebTrends Live (Personal Edition) in some of my sites. Still have top positions in Google. The Javascript code for the tracking accounts to about 5-10 percent of pagesize.
Wonder what will happen when I remove the tracking code end of the month (Personal Edition is being discontinued).

europeforvisitors

7:40 pm on Sep 19, 2002 (gmt 0)



I didn't have any problems with including WebTrends Live (Personal Edition) in some of my sites. Still have top positions in Google.

Same here. Not for every keyphrase, obviously, but I'm on page 1 for many keyphrases and I rank #1 for several important ones. So WebTrends Personal Edition doesn't seem to have hurt me.

Wonder what will happen when I remove the tracking code end of the month (Personal Edition is being discontinued).

I've been wondering the same thing. I don't expect much change, if any--but even if there is a change, it will be hard to discern because of other variables such as new links or monthly tweaks in Google's algorithm.