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Hubs and crosslinking

         

kira

11:14 pm on Aug 26, 2002 (gmt 0)

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I'm not sure whether I understand the hub concept correctly. I have a page that is just a list of all my sites. Each of these sites is linked to this 'hub'. Is this considered crosslinking - and if so, is it risky to use such a setup? I *really* don't want to have all my sites PR0'd again after all the work I went through to rebuild my business.

MHes

11:21 pm on Aug 26, 2002 (gmt 0)

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Hi
Sounds risky to me. The links out from the hub probably carry little pr benefit, so if you want to keep them for visitors make them cgi or stop the spider following them in some way.

Not worth the risk of upsetting google....

kira

11:31 pm on Aug 26, 2002 (gmt 0)

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Thank you for responding to my post!

Is there a way to get google to spider all my sites without actually having to submit them? That was one of my intentions in creating a page that lists each of my sites....My thought was that I could add each new site to my links/hub page and Google would spider them automatically.

jatar_k

11:35 pm on Aug 26, 2002 (gmt 0)

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just get each of your new sites added to odp and google will spider them. Or work on getting them listed with other sites. Google loves following links.

<added>or yahoo for that matter but that may mean paying.

rfgdxm1

12:00 am on Aug 27, 2002 (gmt 0)

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>Sounds risky to me. The links out from the hub probably carry little pr benefit, so if you want to keep them for visitors make them cgi or stop the spider following them in some way.

This sort of thing is what makes me have serious worries about how Google does things. What kira is proposing here is the sort of thing I'd exect webmasters *naturally* to do! By "natural" I mean that which webmasters would tend to do even if they weren't considering search engines. Putting up a page listing all your sites and linking to it would be the sort of self-promotion I'd expect webmasters to engage in. I can see the logic in Google penalizing people who artificially set up sites *just* for the purpose of ranking well in Google. However, penalizing the natural tendency for webmasters to tell people about their other websites?

JayC

12:52 am on Aug 27, 2002 (gmt 0)

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I wouldn't expect there to be any problem with such a linking approach, as long as there are links other than the one from your hub to each of the other sites. Even without that, I haven't seen any evidence that this sort of scheme would bring about a penalty, if by "penalty" you mean something like a PR0 for the main site (as long as you stay away from other PR0-attractors -- WPG, zeus, "bad neighborhoods," etc).

On the other hand, I wouldn't expect the outlying sites to have a significant PageRank either. It wouldn't be a penalty, simply that a link from a page with multiple links wouldn't bring much PageRank. Unless you were to develop other links for each of those sites, I wouldn't be surprised at all for them to have a PageRank of 2 or less (zero, perhaps). But that's not a penalty; it'd be the PR value they'd "deserve."

If you develop other links to those sites, and to the hub site, I wouldn't expect any problems at all. Because "natural" linking, as rfgdxm1 mentions, involves links to and from various sites and pages. If your sites only link among themselves, that isn't "natural," it's a "closed circle." And that can equate to "bad neighborhood."

jayq

3:58 pm on Aug 27, 2002 (gmt 0)

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i've had really good luck having every page link the hub - then having the hub link every page but NOT having every page link every other page. then on the hub page i trade out a lot of links with other webmasters. it keeps your hub valid