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Is it safe to link to a PR7 site, with links pages greyed out

         

Katarina

3:08 pm on Aug 17, 2002 (gmt 0)

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I have learned here that if I link to a PR0 site that is being penalized for what ever reason, I stand a good chance of being penalized also.

What about linking to a PR7 or PR6 site with internal pages having PR greyed out? Or PR0. If my link points to the main page with PR7 or PR6 and they have a link to my site on their link page (greyed out or PR0), not on their main page, is there any risk? I understand that I do not get any PR from their link but as I still get visitors, I might in some cases keep the reciprocal link. But only if there is no risk of being penalized. I have had several cases like this = main page having high PR, link pages greyed out. I don't know why their link pages are now greyed out.

Please, help!

Katarina

Marcia

3:58 pm on Aug 17, 2002 (gmt 0)

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Katrina, there are sites that deliberately exclude some pages from spidering. If that's the case with those link pages, they're taking the Page Rank benefit from those who link to them but not giving anything back in return.

Check their robots.txt to see. I've known some to do that. Unless they're sending qualified traffic that's converting to sales, I would not link to them at all if that's the case, just on principle, if nothing else.

Katarina

5:55 pm on Aug 17, 2002 (gmt 0)

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Thank you, Marcia.

I tried to check out their source code, but I did not find any robots.txt in their Meta tags. It is strange though, one of these sites have a huge amount of link pages and I checked a lot of them = all greyed out. Yet all other internal pages on that site have PR5 or PR6. Is there any other way to use robots.txt than Meta Tags. I mean somewhere else so that I - as a very inexperienced webmaster - do not find it?

When I originally got a reciprocal link with those sites, they had decent PR also on their link pages. But now it is gone - otherwise those sites do not look like link farms.

Katarina

chiyo

6:22 pm on Aug 17, 2002 (gmt 0)

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Katarina. robots.txt is in the root directory. Type the name of the domain only and then robots.txt

eg: [domain.com...]

Katarina

5:25 am on Aug 18, 2002 (gmt 0)

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Thank you, Chiyo. I did not know that.

There was no robots.txt.
But now I found out that they have organized their site in a new way = there are several domains. They have a front page with links to all the domains. But just visiting the site, I did not see that it was a question of different domains now. It was not that way when I got the reciprocal link.

Other domains have good PR, just the link domain (all links, nothing else) is altogether greyed out. Doesn't that mean that it is now a bad neighborhood or something, unless it is so new that it is not yet indexed?

I am linking to their main domain, not to that neighborhood, but if it really is a bad neighborhood, I'll take the link away anyway. case.

Katarina

deejay

6:48 am on Aug 18, 2002 (gmt 0)

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Hi Katarina

grey bar = not indexed
white bar (no green at all) = PR0

The grey bar could be because of their reorganisation, or it could be because there's a robots block in there, but it should be fine to take a link from. As long as their other domains link to it it should eventually pick up some PR overflow from them.

The white bar indicates that Google knows about the site, but doesn't like it for some reason. That's the one to stay clear of.

Katarina

2:40 pm on Aug 18, 2002 (gmt 0)

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Thank you, deejay, for clarification.

You said:
grey bar = not indexed
white bar (no green at all) = PR0

Now I understand. In spring when I visited the site in question I remember wondering why they had white bar with no green at all. I thought then that it must be some temporary problem. The white bar must be the reason why they have reorganized everything and links are now on a separate domain. I'll just see what happens after next update.

Katarina

akogo

3:28 pm on Aug 18, 2002 (gmt 0)

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Katarina,

Is the file name for these link pages "themeindex.html"?

Akogo

Katarina

5:24 pm on Aug 18, 2002 (gmt 0)

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Akogo,

No, there are at least hundred link pages on different topics. Their names tell something about the topic, but do not use word 'theme'.

Before their reorganization they used (according to their own front page) two link programs or systems, which have been discussed here, another was Zeus, I don't remember the other one. Perhaps those linking systems caused them to have PR0 and they then decided to take links out of their main domain.

Katarina