granted, neither of these pages are great.... lots of misinformation.... but if you know your google, and weed through the "have 'normal' amount of meta-keywords, say about 5-9..." kind of stuff, and you have read everything else here, have a look if you are bored... lots of links to tangent off on.
1.) some guy tells you his ideas on google
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2.) WebmasterWorld mentioned by 'Danny' (not Sullivan) half way down
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