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Reporting Software and Reasons for Banned Sites

         

Red5

10:43 am on Aug 13, 2002 (gmt 0)

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HELP!

Two of my sites (in my profile) were banned by Google in the June update, and I have not understood why until recently (at least, I'm guessing, because I cannot see any other reasons...)

About 4-5 months ago I ran a couple of WPG missions against google for this site and one other. I am new at this, and was trying to promote these sites for a couple of friends businesses and both got banned at the same time :(

I have since learned not to use WPG in this mannor, and refrained from doing so since about Feb this year, but the ban started in June and is still there!

Is there anything I can do to get the sites listed again? Please help. I don't know what to do, and now my friends are losing work because of me!

ukgimp

11:07 am on Aug 13, 2002 (gmt 0)

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You look like you have links on some sort of dogdy web ring referal type thing to buy spiderman stuff. Lose that for a start. I suspect you are making bugger all from it.

It seems from past posts that grey is not the bad one, if that is the case then things are not as bad as they seem.

Do you also tell your clients not to use automated systems to check rank and make them understand that they should not submit to these

Reach 1000+ search engines....

Make sure they go through you if they have an idea, explain the possible panalties to them and how important it can be. Tell em this is just a taster.

Red5

11:13 am on Aug 13, 2002 (gmt 0)

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>>Spiderman Stuff

I'm not sure what you mean by this - could you explain a bit more please :)

About 2 years ago I did join a link generating program (Link2Link), but I stopped being a member in 2000! Sadly, some of the pages on other sites are still in the Google index which point to the InsideOut site: EG:

Snipped, no URL's please Red

Strangely, each of these has a PR of 4 ????????

[edited by: NFFC at 11:15 am (utc) on Aug. 13, 2002]

ukgimp

11:21 am on Aug 13, 2002 (gmt 0)

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At the very bottem of your contact info in the grandscape you have this

<!-- BEGIN WEBSIDESTORY CODE -->

This looks to be pulling info from somwhere else, i did not look to hard. It is offering me the option to buy stuf totaly unrelated to the content.

HTH

Red5

11:25 am on Aug 13, 2002 (gmt 0)

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That is simply a HitBox.com site stats tracker :)

ukgimp

11:34 am on Aug 13, 2002 (gmt 0)

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It may be hotbox, but it offers links to buy spiderman suits for children etc, at least for me anyhow. There must be other tracker systems that would fit a little more easily. I am not saying that is the reason for certain, but if I had to guess it would be reasonably high up.

Cheers

Red5

12:48 pm on Aug 13, 2002 (gmt 0)

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So, can anyone see anything else that might have pulled the site down? :p

Rugles

12:56 pm on Aug 13, 2002 (gmt 0)

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I can not decide if I want the spiderman suit or the diaper (UK folks read Nappy) bag.

This ad in the bottom left corner has got to be the culprit.

JuDDer

1:02 pm on Aug 13, 2002 (gmt 0)

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I personally don't see why the hitbox code should have any impact whatsoever. Many many thousands of sites use hitbox web stats and they all display a small banner.

It's also written to the page by javascript as far as I can see so the 'bots shouldn't be able to even see it.

Rugles

1:07 pm on Aug 13, 2002 (gmt 0)

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Could be the combination of the Hitbox banner and WPG. You have to stay under the radar with Google.

It might be time to add the Meta description and more Meta keywords. That will help with some of the other SE's.

gcn

10:20 pm on Aug 14, 2002 (gmt 0)

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I just check your site and there are two things you need to look at:

1. <title>Sorry, the page you are looking for has been moved or removed!</title> - You need to change this.

2. <meta name="robots" content="noindex,nofollow"> - Here is your
problem. You are telling all crawlers not to index or follow any links on your site, therefore you will not be included in Google.

So, in all liklihood you haven't been banned... the problem is something you can control. Relax, fix the problems, take a closer
look at the rest of your HTML and wait until the next update.

Regards,
Gabriel

pageoneresults

10:33 pm on Aug 14, 2002 (gmt 0)

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Red5, there are a total of 12 links out there on this vast Internet that point to your site. Google shows "0" results for your domain, even in a "contain the term" search.

3 ATW - 3 AV - 0 AOL - 2 HotBot - 4 MSN

gcn, welcome to Webmaster World. The URL you were looking at is incorrect. I believe Red5 copied the URL incorrectly. There are two of them in the string, its the one at the end that you should be viewing.

Red5, you need to get a few more quality inbound links. An ODP listing is mandatory also. This applies to the second URL in your profile.

[edited by: pageoneresults at 10:45 pm (utc) on Aug. 14, 2002]

pageoneresults

10:41 pm on Aug 14, 2002 (gmt 0)

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Hmmm, now lets talk about that first URL. Plenty of links out there. Is it possible your site was down during a crawl (the first URL in your profile)?

It also appears that you may be involved in a few link farms. Or at least directories that have been PR0'd. If you are linking back to those PR0 properties, that may be another possible reason. Your first site shows a gray toolbar. When performing a search on the domain, there is only one bulleted item in the returned page, there are normally 4 of them. The one that is there is for a "contain the term" search. Wierd...

beach

11:12 pm on Aug 14, 2002 (gmt 0)

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Good Luck Red5

I have picked up on some good points on this thread too...
:)

gcn

11:17 pm on Aug 14, 2002 (gmt 0)

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Pageonresults: Thanks for the welcome and for pointing out the correct URL.

To continue the DMOZ thought, would it be as good to have one of your interior pages listed in DMOZ but not your main index page?

In my case, my tutorials page has been included but the editor of the section I originally applied to has not be an active editor since early in the year and from what I understand, no updates have been made. What's your take on the effect on page rank?

Thanks again!
Gabriel

pageoneresults

11:27 pm on Aug 14, 2002 (gmt 0)

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> To continue the DMOZ thought, would it be as good to have one of your interior pages listed in DMOZ but not your main index page?

It depends on which category you are submitting to. If your home page is specific to the general category you are applying to, that is what will get listed, you have no choice.

Now, if you have other sections of your site that are topic specific and you can get listed in additional categories, then the URL you submit will most likely be reflected in the dmoz listing, the Editor will make that determination based on the information in your submission.

Your dmoz and Yahoo! listings are two of the most important inbound links to have. A dmoz listing has a dramatic impact on your Google listings. But, only if you submit to the proper category and you take the time to write your title and description according to dmoz guidelines.

Then, hope that the Editor does not modify it too drastically and keeps your main keyword phrase either in the title or description. Keywords in the category URL's are also important! ;)

mbauser2

12:59 am on Aug 15, 2002 (gmt 0)

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This ad in the bottom left corner has got to be the culprit.

I cannot see how you would reach that conclusion. Hitbox has no connection to SEO, and it's even a real reciprocal link. (Hitbox adds link to hitbox.com, which redirects to the advertiser, but Hitbox links back to the user sites through yep.com.) Google has no real reason to go after sites for that code. It's just not the kind of thing they're watching out for, unless they've declared a War on Javascript.

mbauser2

1:11 am on Aug 15, 2002 (gmt 0)

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1. <title>Sorry, the page you are looking for has been moved or removed!</title> - You need to change this.

If you're talking about the error pages for his domains, you're off base. The text message of a 404 page doesn't matter as long as the HTTP status code is 404. Which it is for both domains.

<meta name="robots" content="noindex,nofollow"> - Here is your
problem.

Now there, you've got something.

pageoneresults

2:49 am on Aug 15, 2002 (gmt 0)

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> <meta name="robots" content="noindex,nofollow"> - Here is your
problem.

No, thats also coming from his custom 404. The link in his profile is not correct, hence the custom 404 page when you visit. If you break the 2 URL's out of the string, you'll see that the sites return proper <head> sections without the 404 title and the meta robots tag. Someone was covering all their bases with the 404 and made sure that the spiders did not index the 404 page itself.

Red5

8:14 am on Aug 15, 2002 (gmt 0)

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Those error pages are not ours! We are located on a subdomain of our hosts site (in-out).

You can see that going to our site provides you with our index page, not a 404 error.

The owners of the main domain were taken over, and at that time a meta refresh tag was placed on their index page which redirects to their new domain.

It has been suggested that this is the cause of our problems, as the main domain now has PR0 and this has filtered down to us! We are now having to purchase a propper domain name and relocate the site!