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What programs do you use to optimize webpages for google

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Nik21

3:08 am on Jul 24, 2002 (gmt 0)

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:)

mack

3:17 am on Jul 24, 2002 (gmt 0)

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I think the best thing to do is save your money and stick to these boards. Any company that wished to make software to optimize pages for Google would have a hard time keeping up with the changes that Google keaps making. Just concentrate on getting lots of good inbound links (esp Yahoo! and ODP) and the results will follow. :)

Marcia

3:21 am on Jul 24, 2002 (gmt 0)

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That's an easy one!

There are only three that are of any use, so they're the ones I use:


  • Internet Explorer
  • Netscape
  • Opera

Any of those will take me right to www.google.com or this forum. :)

mack

3:33 am on Jul 24, 2002 (gmt 0)

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here are my secret tips to get you to the no1 spot on Google

. use at least 400k of JS on your homepage

. All homepage links should be to link farms

. you need 10 pop up windows per page

. 1000 invisable text words

. you "must" have a flash intro and a splsh page leading to your flash page

. You must sell a small cam that goes anywhere

. you must display a logo saying "designed for explorer"

. your page must load within 7 mins

. you must place your title tag after the final </body> tag

. images that are less that 1 meg should be avoided

. you need to link to your 404 page at least 8 times from your index page

this post is (c) fly by night seo. inc 2002

:)

Nik21

3:42 am on Jul 24, 2002 (gmt 0)

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hahahahaa. n1, because i have webposition gold which basicly tells me that keywords r the best thing for a high PR. i renamed alot of things on my website and added alot of keywords which seamed to help a little. i dont however have any links from other sites to mine. is this crippeling my ability to get a high PR?

mack

3:46 am on Jul 24, 2002 (gmt 0)

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Nik21...

Where are my manners

"Welcome to Webmasterworld"

:)

Nik21

3:51 am on Jul 24, 2002 (gmt 0)

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ty sir.

Marcia

3:59 am on Jul 24, 2002 (gmt 0)

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Seriously Nik21, it's using the keyword phrases the page is about in a natural way. In the <h1> to <h6>, in the text on the pages, both together as a phrase and individually, as you would in normal conversation if you were telling someone about it, and in the page title.

Having good links pointing to the site helps a lot, and if you can have text links for those it's better, including more helpful to people finding the site through the links.

It's not only what's on a particular page, it's what's on the whole site, and the Page Rank, which depends on the sites linking to you. So that's why a program for pages can't be that much help, there's just too much off the page that also counts.

Get some links from good sites, and especially submit to ODP.

Reading through the forum helps the most, even though there's an awful lot to absorb, and also looking at sites right at Google's site, including in the cache where keywords are highlighted so you can see how they're distributed.

And welcome to WmW!

Nik21

4:07 am on Jul 24, 2002 (gmt 0)

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never gotten so many welcomes before. very diff forum then what i'm used to. thank you again.

does any of you have aim or icq?
aim - Abu2136
icq - 84793343

Beachboy

4:19 am on Jul 24, 2002 (gmt 0)

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Mack - that's funny. :)

I don't use any programs to optimize. But the knowledge available here at WW is worth far more than any program, I don't care what it is. So study study study and ask questions. Good luck.

Nik21

4:24 am on Jul 24, 2002 (gmt 0)

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thank you,

question: on a 100% scale, how much does having sites link to yours influence your PR?

Example: links make up 20% on the PRing battle.

question: in the movie waterworld, why wasnt the military, w/ there carriers and ships, leaders of everything?

rfgdxm1

4:32 am on Jul 24, 2002 (gmt 0)

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Thanks, Beachboy. OK, I'll ask you. Precisely how do I get the #1 position for all my key search terms on Google? Thanks in advance. ;)

Nik21

4:33 am on Jul 24, 2002 (gmt 0)

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me likes that question

danny

4:41 am on Jul 24, 2002 (gmt 0)

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Nik21: PageRank is 100% based on links.

SERPs, however, are based on on-page criteria and on PR-weighted link anchors.

Beachboy

4:43 am on Jul 24, 2002 (gmt 0)

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All I do is use this META tag:

<meta name="search engine positioning" content="number 1">

;)

Seriously, go here, find excellent advice:

[webmasterworld.com...]

rfgdxm1

4:44 am on Jul 24, 2002 (gmt 0)

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question: on a 100% scale, how much does having sites link to yours influence your PR?

Example: links make up 20% on the PRing battle.

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Links are what counts for PR. You want other pages linking to you, and the higher the PR they have the better. However, the importance of PR is often overblown. The importance of PR depends a LOT on how competitive the key search terms you want to optimize for are. PR really isn't the main concern if your key search terms aren't competitive. For example, if you consider "fluorescent pink arboreal capybaras" a key search terms, doing well on that really doesn't require a high page rank. ;)

Nik21

4:45 am on Jul 24, 2002 (gmt 0)

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as u can tell by the attractive title under my name *NEW USER*

"SERPs, however, are based on on-page criteria and on PR-weighted link anchors."

in english? or newbish? and dont be shy about the waterworld question, its a very good question

danny

4:56 am on Jul 24, 2002 (gmt 0)

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PageRank is 100% based on links.

Search results (SERPS) aren't directly based on PageRank.

SERPS are based on on-page criteria and on the text in and near the anchors of the links pointing at the page. The latter is weighted by the PageRank of the linking page.

mack

4:57 am on Jul 24, 2002 (gmt 0)

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Google base their results on a mix of keyword density and PR to rank well you need to work on both these issues. Pr is 100% related to link pop Google will pass on extra PR if the site that links to you is of similar content.

Try and get listed in as many subject orientated directories as possible that is one of the important steps to boost link pop and as a result increase your PR.

Nik21

4:59 am on Jul 24, 2002 (gmt 0)

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so link my ass off to everything *of good PR* that relates to my subject?

danny

5:05 am on Jul 24, 2002 (gmt 0)

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Nik21: no, get them to link to you.

sparrow

5:21 am on Jul 24, 2002 (gmt 0)

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Just remember it is not a good idean to use javascript to create your links, it makes it easy and clean, but "bots" can't read script!

Marcia

5:25 am on Jul 24, 2002 (gmt 0)

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>Google will pass on extra PR if the site that links to you is of similar content.

mack, the calculations always appear to be strictly numerical for Page Rank. Have you seen any data or testing done that would indicate a PR boost for theming?

>in english? or newbish?

We speak serpish here. :)

rfgdxm1

5:28 am on Jul 24, 2002 (gmt 0)

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>Pr is 100% related to link pop Google will pass on extra PR if the site that links to you is of similar content.

I thought PR wfrom a linking page was content neutral?

Marcia

5:32 am on Jul 24, 2002 (gmt 0)

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>I thought PR wfrom a linking page was content neutral?

That's also my understanding. There may be other factors operating and helping along, but strictly for Page Rank it's straight numbers AFAIK, the value of the vote.

rfgdxm1

5:38 am on Jul 24, 2002 (gmt 0)

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>so link my a** off to everything *of good PR* that relates to my subject?

Actually, try to get as many sites with related content to yours to link to you regardless of your PR. Inbound traffic from related sites is at least as good as search engine traffic. Recently in fact I found that a Russian site was linking to mine unsolicited from my logs. I found they had a bulletin board, and realized at least one of the webmasters spoke English. I offered to link back to them, and even asked for the proper Russian Cyrillic language text that was proper for the link. [BTW, I never realized what a pain it was to figure out *how* to get Russian language text on one of my web pages. ;)]. I figure good relations with related sites (I also have a Finnish language site linking to me) is more important than worrying about search engines.

mack

6:05 am on Jul 24, 2002 (gmt 0)

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I wasn't refering entirely to PR

I was simply saying that Google appears to rank sites more favourably when then have sites (on content) that link to them.

WebGuerrilla

3:29 pm on Jul 24, 2002 (gmt 0)

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You can find that post as well as many others in our Google Library. [webmasterworld.com]

JayC

3:45 pm on Jul 24, 2002 (gmt 0)

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>> Pr is 100% related to link pop Google will pass on extra PR if the site that links to you is of similar content.

>> I wasn't refering entirely to PR

I just want to clarify this because I'm afraid we're confusing our new user Nik21. "PR" is usually used at WebmasterWorld to refer to Google's PageRank, which is a measure of the number and quality of links to each web page Google has indexed. But sometimes it's used more casually to refer to any or every element of determining rankings.

So "PR is 100% related to link pop" is correct if it's referring to PageRank. "Google will pass on extra PR if the site that links to you is of similar content" may be correct if "PR" in that statement does not mean PageRank, but means in general an improvement in ranking.

And SERPs, in case it's not clear, is "search engine results pages," the page of results that are returned for a query.