Questions about PR and forum archiving...

Vital questions about PR + Any chance of archiving the whole forum

[dwhite]

Hi all,
My second post, and just a few more questions :)

a: Google only allows 10 words maximum in a search. Is there any way to bypass this unnecessarily low limit?

b: I need to put quite a lot of html code at the top of my page, but I don't want to resort to SSI, as I can't start renaming all my files to .shtml. Trouble is, Google counts words at the top as higher priority (I assume it doesn't take into account actual html coding btw (?) ). Is there any way to have this code somehow as though it was 'at the top' or maybe get Google to ignore just that selection somehow? (It's a graphical button bar).

c: If a site with PR 10 links to you, how many sites (pages?) rated with just PR 1 point would need to link to you to be as effective?

d: Is there a simple way to see the Page rank without installing the Google Toolbar (the directory doesn't give the exact number) ?

e: If I cross-linked to every other page on my site (of which there are about 20 pages), is there /any/ disadvantage whatsoever with this, or is it completely beneficial - in terms of Google's PR? (Bear in mind that there's a lot of varied content which isn't always related, so perhaps it would be more (or slightly less?) beneficial to only cross-link pages which are related.)

Finally is there any chance of archiving all the 10,000s of messages from the Webmasterworld Google forum into one big text file for offline reading? =) (update it say... yearly)

Cheers,
Daniel

[Brett_Tabke]

a) No.
b) I think it helps if the first part of your content starts with a valid <P> tag and one full bodied sentence. Google will skip certain parts of a navigation system. Use standard words in the alt tags of your menu graphics (home, contacts, etc).
c) 100,000 is the working theory... (also, pr is per page, not site).
d) nope.
e) with only 20 pages, the gain would be there. I wouldn't worry about any problems. It would maximize the pr across all the pages and you'd start to high on more kw's. Your top 4-5 kw's would fall, but you would more than make up for it as the pr rises on the lessor pages and their kw's.
f) nope.

[deejay]

b: I need to put quite a lot of html code at the top of my page, but I don't want to resort to SSI, as I can't start renaming all my files to .shtml. Trouble is, Google counts words at the top as higher priority (I assume it doesn't take into account actual html coding btw (?) ). Is there any way to have this code somehow as though it was 'at the top' or maybe get Google to ignore just that selection somehow?

I don't believe using a server side include would give you an advantage in this. As the "server side" implies, the code is inserted on the server side before it is dished up to the viewer, or in this case spider - ie, your page will appear to them pretty much as it does now.

My generic page layout for my main site is as follows:

logo (gif)
byline
nav menu
breadcrumbing
left - product photo & links ¦ right - h1 & product info
bottom navigation

so I've probably got a similar situation to yours.

I've already used the table trick to reverse the code order of the left panel and right panel, which has at least brought the product info a bit further up the page.

At the moment I'm playing with css for layout which allows me to change the code order to:

right panel - h1 & product info ¦ left panel - product photo
bottom navigation
logo (gif)
byline
nav menu
breadcrumbing

...or just about any other order I want.

Looks gorgeous in IE5 & up. Just doesn't work in NN4 or lower, or IE3 or lower, or Opera for that matter.

At least it doesn't work in Opera SO FAR - I'm learning css for layout on the fly with this one, so maybe it'll work yet :) If it does, I'll be damn tempted to let go of compatability with the earlier browsers, as it would make site maintenance a dream compared to what it is now.