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temporary server url now reflected in results

I want the domain name url!

         

jpalmer

4:47 am on Jul 4, 2002 (gmt 0)

10+ Year Member



I sent this message to Google help and received
a reply to go to google groups and register
for answers. (Thanks but no thanks)

So please help folks, I prefer your company
anyway!

Google did a deep spider (YAAAAY!) on my
domain in late April - early May, when I had just
transferred the site to a new server and the
domain delegation was pointed at the temporary
upload server address.

I did an advanced search on the temp. url and
and it appears there are 150 plus indexed!

The temp url is now showing up in search results
on Google and thence in my server referrer logs.

How can I get the Google index records to reflect
the domain url rather than temp. server address?

Cheers
JP

korkus2000

5:38 am on Jul 4, 2002 (gmt 0)

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Do you have incomming links to your domain name?

jpalmer

5:58 am on Jul 4, 2002 (gmt 0)

10+ Year Member



>Do you have incomming links to your domain name?
Yes, 100's probably 1000's. We've been out there since 1997.

What bearing does this have on getting google to reindex my
domain url rather than the temp. url?

JP

jdMorgan

3:53 pm on Jul 4, 2002 (gmt 0)

WebmasterWorld Senior Member 10+ Year Member



If you have incoming links to your domain name, Google will re-index your site
based on those links, and your domain will appear in their index next month (or
the month after that), and your old temporary address will disappear after
awhile, too.

Jim

jpalmer

10:44 pm on Jul 4, 2002 (gmt 0)

10+ Year Member



Greetings and gidday Jim,

Thanks for the explanation, but I'd prefer not to
wait a couple of months for the auto index to
wash throught the system. Don't s'pose you know
anyone in high places at Google who can get a
"find and replace" done? ;-)

Failing that, should I just resubmit all the
important pages to ensure indexing?

Cheers
JP

jdMorgan

12:34 am on Jul 5, 2002 (gmt 0)

WebmasterWorld Senior Member 10+ Year Member



JP,

I know you can get URLs removed immediately, but spidering and indexing new
URLs occurs on Google's schedule, not ours... That's why many of us gather
here every month, first to predict, then to watch, and then to cheer or wail,
as the Googledance proceeds inexorably toward the final updated index.

A month sounds like a long time, but Teoma just updated yesterday after showing
the old (and now dead) URL for my site for three months - at least Google ONLY
takes a month or two!

You can request a site be removed for legal or other pressing reasons, but
again, getting a URL added outside the normal spidering/indexing is probably
not possible. If you have incoming links from other sites that Google already
knows about, then you don't need to submit, and doing so won't change anything.

Have another Foster's, and another, and another, and relax... It is a necessary
SEO survival skill! :)

Cheers,
Jim

jpalmer

1:24 am on Jul 6, 2002 (gmt 0)

10+ Year Member



Gidday Jim,

>I know you can get URLs removed immediately, but spidering and indexing new
URLs occurs on Google's schedule, not ours

It's not a matter of getting the urls removed or indexed, they're already in the index.

I just want them updated from the temporary server address to the domain name address, as I think I'll be waiting a while for another
deep spider like the one that went through during the upgrade period!

I mean ... even I can do a "find and replace" on my system, with my limited resources! ;-)

Cheers
JP

jpalmer

5:06 am on Oct 15, 2002 (gmt 0)

10+ Year Member



FYI ... Update: Google 09/02 dance, most urls finally updated ...
YAAAAAAAAAAYY!

jdMorgan

5:18 am on Oct 15, 2002 (gmt 0)

WebmasterWorld Senior Member 10+ Year Member



Glad to hear it!

Sorry it took so long - Like I said, they update on their schedule, not ours. But this was slow, even for them! Also glad to hear you've not gone mad for the waiting. :)

Jim

jpalmer

4:08 am on Oct 20, 2002 (gmt 0)

10+ Year Member



NUTS!

Spoke too soon, the temp server url is still popping up
in various results, even those dated 18 Ocotober 2002,
and people are creating links based on those urls.

I'm on an IIS server, have a robots.txt and access to error
pages. Any useful suggestions short of (horror ... gasp
big hit on referrals) noindex on google till all the temp
files are gone?

Cheers : - } JP

jdMorgan

4:24 am on Oct 20, 2002 (gmt 0)

WebmasterWorld Senior Member 10+ Year Member



jpalmer,

Sounds like you got "freshed" and then the fresh listing expired. This is weird, but that's how it works.

Google does not have any mechanism to change URLs, except for their monthly update.

I'm afraid there's nothing for it but to wait until the next update. At the end of this month, the data spidered at the beginning of this month will be incorporated into the Google index, and then those results you saw temporarily should be "solid" and consistent in the search results. However, I have to warn you - the "Google Dance" takes several days, and you will likely see crazy results during that time.

All you can do is wait it out. Personally, I make it a point to not check my listings during the dance, and to ignore the "update thread" here on WebmasterWorld. The update thread is full of people who have new/changed listings who don't understand that the craziness is just the way that Google works, and patience is required.

Bottom line is that it takes between 30 and 59 days to get a solid Google listing, depending on when your site went live (or your URL changed) in relation to Google's schedule.

Best wishes,
Jim

jdMorgan

4:32 am on Oct 20, 2002 (gmt 0)

WebmasterWorld Senior Member 10+ Year Member



jpalmer,

I missed a question you asked.

If you can do it on IIS (I use Apache, so I don't know), detect all incoming requests for (your.ip.address)/pagename, and redirect them to your.domain.com/pagename using an external 301-Moved Permanently redirect. This will cause google to flush the ip-based listings out.

You may want to do a WebmasterWorld site search for "redirect IIS" or similar to find the threads where this is discussed. Again, I'm on Apache and don't know how to do the redirect in an IIS environment.

HTH,
Jim

jpalmer

5:38 am on Oct 21, 2002 (gmt 0)

10+ Year Member



Gidday Jim,

Thanks for your feedback, unfortunately no solution
apparent following the various forums, as I don't
have access to the "root" IIS server admin., only FTP
to the domain, where I can control the content of the
robots.txt and the error/*.htm folder and files.

I don't want to redirect (nor know how to) as Google
is also indexing my domain-name urls OK (thank goodness!).

But I do want to tidy it up asap, by telling Googlebot NOT
to index "temporary-domain.com"/*htm urls.

Anyone got a foolproof robots.txt string instructing Google
to ignore "temp-domain.com" while indexing the rest of
the domain-name site as usual?

It is starting to drive me crazy now! ... ;-} Besides ...
I prefer Cascade to Fosters!

Cheers and Hooroo
JP