Any Mom and Pop PR8's?

[Brett_Tabke]

Know of any pr8 or higher sites with a single proprietor?

I think there is a pr glass ceiling for mom and pops at pr7

[danny]

My review site might be close, but I don't know if it qualifies as "Mom and Pop". The site is all my own content, but I've been online since 1989 and have had a web site since early 1995 - and my computing and sf reviews run on Slashdot! Despite all of that, I don't think I'll ever make PR8. That's not because there's any discrimination by Google against ordinary individuals or hobby sites, though, it's just that getting that widely known and linked to is beyond the reach of non-celebrities.

I think Richard Stallman's personal site has PR 8 - and the only other individual I could find with a PR 8 site is Bill Gates! (Can someone with IE and a toolbar check those two? That was a few updates ago.)

[edited by: danny at 11:42 am (utc) on July 1, 2002]

[Brett_Tabke]

Ya, noted celebs need to be left out. I know of a few there. Tom Cruise doesn't quite qualify for mom & pop ;-)

[Marcia]

I've never seen a Mom and Pop more than 6.

[danny]

I can't even find Tom Cruise's home page, he can't be that famous! (He's one of the best known people I've corresponded with - after I panned one of his books :-) )

[danny]

Do webmasterworld administrators all wake up really early, or what? (It's 10pm here in Australia.)

[vitaplease]

Even more difficult: Commercial Mom and Pop with a PR8

I would assume there would be some scientists with a personal PR8 site, but then again, are they Mom & Pop?

[ggrot]

Blogger.com appears to have about the same staff size as a mom and pop, with a PR of 8.

[danny]

I doubt there are any scientists with that kind of profile. If Stephen Jay Gould hadn't been a technophobe and had created a web site, he might have managed it. Stephen Hawking is the only other scientist I can think of with that kind of public profile.

ggrot: well found!

[edited by: danny at 11:53 am (utc) on July 1, 2002]

[Lisa]

Yeah, I have been awake all night trying to figure out how to get a PR8. :)

And you think I am joking. I am not.

[Brett_Tabke]

I've been perking on pr8 for two years. We've been stuck at pr7 here since july of 2000. It's why I pretty much gave up commercial seo, because that's all there is - lets go elsewhere for traffic.

I don't think pr8 can be done in the normal course of web events.

Any mom and pop pr8's? (commercial sites)...

[vitaplease]

I doubt there are any scientists with that kind of profile

Yes very difficult, but just one link from NASA - PR10 index with many PR9 - pages could bring you there.

Any better guestimates on how many PR8 pages around than here?:
[webmasterworld.com...]
At the moment my hunch would be more PR8 around...

[danny]

perking?

Is that as in "something regarded as due by right" or "to put oneself forward briskly or presumptuously"? (Or perhaps as in "to throw up on" :-)

[Chris_R]

I know this PR7 that someone has abandoned that might help their other PR7 site become a PR8 if they actually had a site up and linked to it.

::cough:: ::cough::

[NFFC]

Blogger.com is owned by Pyra Labs, investors include O'Reilly & Associates, Advance Publications, Jerry Michalski, and The Accelerator Group, they ain't no Mom & Pop.

[dotcomscoop.com...]

[danny]

just one link from NASA - PR10 index with many PR9 pages - could bring you there

Ok, time to go read books about the space program :-) (Actually, someone was asking me only a few hours ago if I ever reviewed astronomy books.)

[danny]

Three administrators now, and Chris_R - isn't it the wee hours of the morning in most of the US?

[IanTurner]

Most commercial sites have trouble breaking PR7 let alone Mom & Pop sites.

In the UK it seems to be even more difficult, PR 6 is good 4 & 5 are more common for promoted sites.

[Brett_Tabke]

>I know this PR7 that someone has abandoned

hehe. Make that 3 sites chris - what's a mother to do - Jim, it's dead. When it's dead, it's dead. pr7 doesn't automatically = convertable traffic.

Still looking for something that would qualify as a Mom and Pop at pr8.

going once...

[lazerzubb]

I don't think you count W3.org as mom and pop, does Tim Berners Lee own W3? [w3.org]

[danny]

Forget about owning W3 - the entire Web is Tim Berners-Lee's baby!

[ciml]

noted celebs need to be left out

So that rules out Tim B-L and Jakob Nielsen, but there's a less famous person (whose rather more famous invention gets mentioned around here daily) with a PR8 personal home page.

Otherwise, the best I've found are 7s. Mostly they're non-commercial, just someone who put up an online service or informational site back in the early days.

> When it's dead, it's dead. pr7 doesn't automatically = convertable traffic.

Not automatically...

[danny]

I think Jakob Nielsen almost qualifies - unlike Stallman or Berners-Lee or Bill Gates, Nielsen is largely a celebrity because of his web site. (If it weren't for that, he'd be a recognised usability expert, but hardly famous.)

Otherwise this quest becomes a logical impossibility, since anyone who has a PR8 site will be or become a kind of celebrity as a result!

[danny]

So consider blogger.com again - did they get the venture capital investment before or after they hit PR 8? I reckon they were a Mom and Pop setup originally, then their site became really well known, and then they went big business.

Any Mom and Pop site that reaches PR 8 (or maybe just below) will either go big time themselves or will receive "impossible to turn down" offers from others. Ergo, a purely personal PR 8 site is an impossibility, and Brett is on an unending Quest.

[lazerzubb]

Well the Ultimate mom&pop site is GOOGLE.COM

WHOIS

Registrant:
Larry Page (GOOGLE-DOM)
2400 E. Bayshore Parkway
Mountain View, CA 94043
US

:)

[Brett_Tabke]

$20 million in vc money is hardly "mom and pop".

If we were going that route, we'd have to start with Wang and Yahoo. (he had larry's room first at stanford)

[Go60Guy]

Actually, I'm a grandpop. For that very reason I should get a PR8. lol

Seriously, I hadn't considered that PR6 may very well be the best I can hope for for now. In the recent update my main site moved from a PR5 to a PR6 in the Google Directory. There are no PR7 or above sites listed in the category. Now, I'm wondering how I might be able to move to a PR7 - ie. be the first in the category to get there - if its at all possible.

[lazerzubb]

$20 million in vc money is hardly "mom and pop".

Well they registered it 97, and then they hadn't received the $20m, but i still guess they had a PR of 10 :)

[martinibuster]

My web design company WAS pr8 but it dropped. I suspect because I added more pages and the PR was spread around, plus I dropped a PR5 link to my page from one of my clients web sites (it ruined the look of her web site). Now I'm down to PR 5. I'm going to noindex,no follow some pages today.

[przero2]

I find one Mom & Pop commercial affiliate site [sunfinder.com...] ... Most of the links are clicks to ads or affiliates on this site yet it has a PR8 ... Amusing how to get there!