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Sandboxed Sites - Back Together?

Do they come out together or one by one?

         

McMohan

10:09 am on Nov 20, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Most of the new sites that I work with are still in the sandbox. Was just curios to know, if all the sanboxed sites come out of the sandbox during one fine major updation or one by one, over the rolling updates?

That is to say, should one be checking to see if the sites are out of the sandbox regularly or only when they know there is a major Google update? :)

Thanks

Mc

JudgeJeffries

5:32 pm on Nov 20, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Although a few brave souls claim that their new sites never got sandboxed I believe almost every one here that put a new site up since February is still nowhere in Google. I put 6 up and tried every variation I could think of but to no avail. No one has come up with an answer not withstanding a few outrageous claims. I dont believe that it is just a matter of protecting secrets, if some had cracked it, I image a few that wanted the kudos just couldnt resist gabbing about it. No one has. In my opinion the question that you ask is based on a false premise as no one has shown any credible evidence that any new site has beaten it.

internetheaven

5:38 pm on Nov 20, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Although a few brave souls claim that their new sites never got sandboxed I believe almost every one here that put a new site up since February is still nowhere in Google.

I'd be one of those. Have been launching new sites every month since the "supposed sandbox" was "supposedly introduced". Some of my sites don't rank as high instantly, some do. I don't blame it on some imaginary Google God who penalises new sites (what a crazy notion, and if I were Google I'd be insulted that people would think I would come up with such a daft idea) I simply need to alter a few things and work harder. My shortest time so far was two weeks from going online to being No.6 and currently am No.1 for the same term (a very, very competitive one in the UK). That domain was purchased in August and the site was put on line a few weeks after if I recall correctly. Same story with alot of my sites.

Powdork

5:55 pm on Nov 20, 2004 (gmt 0)

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That domain was purchased in August and the site was put on line a few weeks after if I recall correctly.
What do you mean purchased. We're talking about brand new never before used domains.

BeeDeeDubbleU

6:02 pm on Nov 20, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Internetheaven I can only congratulate you on being the only one in the World to have beaten this thing ;) As far as I know no sites have "came out" since February.

I'm with JudgeJeffries on this one. I have put six SEO'd sites up since February. On each of these I have used the white hat techniques that have been reasonably successful on all my other sites during the last three years. None of them have emerged.

You are truly a miracle worker!

phantombookman

6:06 pm on Nov 20, 2004 (gmt 0)

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I have built many sites all along the same lines, no spam no adds etc basic html. They all do very well, not because I'm brillliant but because of very little SEO in my area.

In the last six months all of my new sites are unquestionably held back. No dodgy linking no nothing.
There is obviously something built into G's algo to hold them back.

Does anyone know when you come out - I am 6 months on one!
Regards
Rod (sick of building sandcastles)

gomer

6:06 pm on Nov 20, 2004 (gmt 0)

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JudgeJeffries, I agree with your post except the date you site as being February. Yes, sites have been getting sandboxed since February but there was one period, about May or June of this year when sites were let out of the sandbox.

A site I worked on started ranking in the index in earnest in May or June. I don't claim to have done anything special to my site that allowed it in. In fact, the way way I found out about the lifting of the sandbox effect was here at WW. At that time, there was a thread that said sandboxed sites were no longer sandboxed. I checked my site and sure enough, it was in the index freely and ranking fine.

To reiterate what I think. Sandboxing has been occurring since February 2004. One time, around May or June 2004, sites were let out of the sandbox. I am waiting (as are many, many others) for the next time sites are allowed out.

I do feel that since May or June of this year, sites have not effectively made it out of the sandbox. I think that when the sandbox is lifted, once again all sites will be allowed in.

I do have a new site (released after June 2004) that recieves what some might call significant traffic from Google on a daily basis. I still consider this site to be sandboxed as it is only receiving a small part of the visitors it will hopefully be receiving when the site is let out of the sandbox.

[edited by: gomer at 6:36 pm (utc) on Nov. 20, 2004]

bears5122

6:10 pm on Nov 20, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Not sure if this is due to Google being broken or just greedy. Whatever the case, it makes them a poor, stale search engine. It is also the reason I don't use them anymore. They just don't give good results for new sites regardless of how releavant they are. Try looking up a new movie and finding their official site.

McMohan

6:21 pm on Nov 20, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Internetheaven - Congrats on your success with new sites.

Now started feeling a little let down in recent times for, the new sites that I was able to rank for some moderatley competitive keywords with ease, are now seeming next to impossible, yet ranking older sites for such keywords is like going out for a stroll on one nice evening. Keywords that used to rank just by adding them in the Title and content, will not rank even after achieving relevant backlinks now, while older sites even without keyword in Title are ranking for the very same terms.

May be there are few things happen only to few individuals and sigh, am one among them. Keep the good work going Internetheaven, and if possible please share the secret, for Google will be a better place to search on.

Best wishes

Mc

yves1

6:34 pm on Nov 20, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Has anyone ever seen a website coming out of the sandbox? Is it that spectacular? Or is it just a long and slow path from nowhere to Heaven that one can hardly recognize as the end of the sandbox?

Powdork

7:29 pm on Nov 20, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Try looking up a new movie and finding their official site.
I looked up sponge bob movie and was surprised to see www.spongebobmovie.com at #1. Then when I visited the page I realised it was a url rewrite of some sort from nickjr.com. The I tried 'after the sunset'. It's there, but it's been around since 2002. I'm not sure if movies are a good example.

Vec_One

8:03 pm on Nov 20, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Internetheaven, I wonder if it could have something to do with your location. Are your domains .com or co.uk? Are your topics regionally specific?

wanna_learn

8:43 pm on Nov 20, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Has GoogleGuy ever thrown his words of wisdom on this topic or he is just enjoyig the show?

hdpt00

10:16 pm on Nov 20, 2004 (gmt 0)



I have emerged victoriously from the sandbox this afternoon. I went from infinity all the way to 664. I am sure the traffic will start rolling in now. Watch out.

randle

10:27 pm on Nov 20, 2004 (gmt 0)

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The sandbox has absolutely tortured us. Older sites do better and better, but new ones prove quite challenging.
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