How to add new pages

Upload complete site or just the new pages?

[lufc1955]

I have recently added several hundred new pages to our site. However as other changes were needed as well we uploaded the complete site in its entirety including the new pages. Since then our site has gone from pr6 to pr0 with no listings at all. Is it possible that Google thinks it is a brand new site and has ignored all our existing rankings? Our site is clean with no cloaking or any dubious practices. No server problems either. I am at a loss to explain what has happened. Our site has hundreds of good incoming links and has been in Google for many years.

[Spica]

Are you sure that the two events are related? Perhaps your site was down during the last crawl, in which case it will come back in future updates.
Did you rename many of your old pages?

[Powdork]

However as other changes were needed as well

Your problem probably depends on what the other changes were.

[dmedia]

This sounds like what happened to me about 6 weeks ago. Massive site online since 1999, PR 7 tons of high quality natural links, for the most part (!) a whitehat site with some shades of grey on what I refrer to as "experimental" pages.

Anyway, had to move to a new server about 2 months ago, and decided to rebuild/code pretty much the entire site. Idiot me, I created the new version on another G-visable domain (basically duplicating content) .. G dumped the main site ironically the very day before I was to move to the new dedicated server.

Thought I'd suffered a manual removal or some severe mechanical penalty. I wept and cursed .. and appealed to Google for clemency.

As of 3 days ago, the site is back in Google, with the "new" pages being crawled like the good old days. And traffic climbing back up nicely.

Still don't know if it was a manual or mechanical (for myriad reasons) penalty .. or a Google glitch .. my experience with other sites I've been prone to tinker with a bit too much is .. G-bot enjoys new pages, but not so much what amounts to a new SITE with each visit.

My experience anyway ..

[lufc1955]

Thanks for your replies. If I delete the changes I recently made so the site looks like it did before it vanished, will Google automatically detect that everything is fine and put us back in the index or will Google have to manually put us back in after a sucessfull appeal by email.

[dmedia]

I'll preface my followup reply by stating that I still don't know why my site (previously compared) vanished from G (the site rebuild *could* have something to do with it, or not) .. nor do I know if I'd suffered a real penalty OR a bizarro Google glicth .. I sent in 3 appeals emails to Google, only one of which was actually responded to by a human (I'd presented a laundry list of possible technical issues related to what appeared to be a Google glitch, and the individual who screened that particular reinclussion request email let it be known that they were sending my note to the "engineering" department.

At any rate .. I simply let the "new" design/pages for the "old" site be as they were .. pages have begun to reappear .. not all of them at once (it seems as if G is re-crawling everything for what it thinks is the first time) .. page rank appears to be fairly robust (not quite what I had before .. but much much much better than a sandboxed new site).

My hunch is there was some combination of triggers that flipped an automated "dump this site" filter on the new and improved Google .. the "Google you goofed" emails I'd sent may have helped get it back in, but mayby not. - G keeps us in the dark. And what works in the morning might be obsolete by the afternoon!

Anyway, I'd build your site the way YOU think it should be buildt, with the pages YOU feel would best represent your company/products .. and let the SEs figure out how to deal with it. - And be prepared for a campaign of patient reinclussion request emails if you don't see Google bot in your logs. - Once you see the crawler, that's great, you just need to wait a few more weeks and your pages should begin appearing in the SERPs ..

Which brings me full circle to my prefacing comment .. I'm really not sure if what I *think* I know is true or not .. too many unknown variables at work. But wishing you luck during what I know is a painful period of compromised profit.