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Seems a few sites took yet another hit in PR after the last hit they took in the latest PR update.
I though the worst was over. Has the PR scale changed yet again? or is this just the flow on effect?
The more things change...
In the directories that I follow I saw some significant jumps in PR the last time the directory was updated (late September). This latest directory update seems to have reversed a lot of those big jumps.
And we're still there. That has to count for something, right?
I also noticed that a 404 site that is still in ODP was removed from my category in Google Directory. Good work Google.
<Note to myself> Reading and participating in threads about Google PR updates is a complete waste of time. Get a life, Spica! </note to myself>
I think im about to give up understanding the why's and wherefores of PR calculation.. And become a sheep farmer in outer mongolia...
I checked a couple of pages in the Google directory, and visited some of the sites listed there. There was no relationship between the PR indicated by the Google toolbar and the PR indicated in the directory.
suprisingly if you order results by PR then we appear under a PR4 rated site
How do you know what the real PR of that site is? By using the toolbar? The point here is that the directory has become a good predictor of PR, EVENTUALLY to be displayed on the toolbar. You are using the toolbar to validate the directory, that does not work. The toolbar LAGS the directory. Dead horse beaten dead.
If you Google the term - google directory pr - Searchnerd has a very good article on converting the directory PR to toolbar PR.
That is certainly not true with this Directory update. For the Directory PR to be true, Google will have to have fully eliminated its previous conception of PR... that is, the result of a mathematical equation. Some of the Directory displayed PR (and some on the toolbar too, but on different pages) is simply impossible.
This Directory update will definitely not predict future PR, unless what is called "PR" will not be math-based in the future.
This Directory update will definitely not predict future PR, unless what is called "PR" will not be math-based in the future.
Quite frankly, your argument makes absolutely no sense at all.
Google is running the machine. They have a right to tweak all mathematical equations. I see web pages appear and disappear all the time. What does that mean? According to your logic, it means that Google has done away with the concept of indexing web pages.
I follow several directory categories very closely. When PR changed in the directory then updated in the toolbar guess what? All the websites that increased in directory PR increased in toolbar PR.
That is absurd. 2+2=4. Google can not say 2+2=5 on Tuesdays.
Two pages with the exact same linking must have the exact same PR if Google uses PR that is strictly an equation as they have in the past. As I said, they could completely change the criteria from which PR is derived... like giving a boost for page background color or font type or anything else under the sun... but if they do that, PR stops being what it has been in the past and becomes something new.
Two pages with the exact same linking must have the exact same PR if Google uses PR that is strictly an equation as they have in the past.
I agree!
2+2=4
Right again! But if it were only that simple. You cannot simplify the calculation to suit your needs.
Calculating PR is an iterative process. It is prone to stability problems because of this. There is also a damping factor. As I understand the equation, there is also a normalizing factor - the damping factor could be used for this too. This would prevent PR from running away (i.e. too many PR 10 sites)
You da man!
