3 months since the last public PR update...

[hugo_guzman]

It's been exactly 3 months since the last public PR update (June 22nd/23rd).

If Google has shifted to quarterly PR updates, then we should see something fairly soon.

[Vadim]

Subway:

Vadim, your PR was not updated. You need to reread your own thread, and do better understanding PR, pages leaving the index, pages returning to the index, and related issues.

We will know PR is updated when at least one datacenter shows new values. Real PR is relative. You can't update one thing while ignoring others. When your PR display went to PR0, that was not a PR update, nor was it an update when it returned from showing PR0.

Can you than give me a hint or link so I can determine whether my PR was really updated?

Because

1.I never was out of index except might be for 1 to 2 days.

2. I am not sure, but seem, PR was restored for me for higher values than it was initially.

3.The restoration was in a way step by step. One page got PR 2 weeks after PR drop and all others 2 months later.

4.If PR changing from 0 to 4 or 2 is not an update than what is it?

5.If this PR in the toolbar is not form a datacenter then what it comes from to the toolbar?

Vadim.

[BillyS]

Roadhazard:

I checked out the cost of Adwords today and really, I cannot afford this service right now.

It costs exactly $5.00 to create an Adwords account. If you are talking about bidding $4.00 a click, then you need to keep reading on how Adwords works.

If all your products have less than a $0.35 margin built in (pre-tax profit), then you have to work hard. If your margins are greater than $0.35, its a no brainer.

I would go so far as to say that MOST people have no idea how to bid in Adwords. That is why I see all the complaints.

[roadhazard]

In my category, gifts, Adwords suggests $2.00 per click. I will go back and look again...

[BillyS]

In my category, gifts, Adwords suggests $2.00 per click. I will go back and look again...

Exactly to my point.

This is getting off topic. Start a topic in Adwords here and sticky me when you do. I normally don't visit that part of the forum, but I would certainly help get you started.

Does anyone know if a primer already exists here?

[shopgal]

Maybe someone can help me out with a concern. One of my sites a PR3 had around 50 pages. Four months ago increased it to around 400 pages. None of these 350+ new pages are in google.

Any ideas why google is not indexing my new pages?

thanks

[TravelMan]

<dontuseseos>

buy adwords buy adwords buy adwords

</dontuseseos>
<semi rant>
Sorry, I guess what im trying to say is that the days of "here is our fab search engine, we are nice guys, love google, we want to harness the worlds info and display it for our users.." type bs is now over.

I guess we are all struggling with the idea of trying to understand that what is being obfuscated.

Everything has changed.

Non informative or misleading google commands, the sandbox, no googleguy hints, no pr updates...less less less less.

The commercial arm of google dislikes seo. Why is it so difficult for us to accept this?

why do we continually try and analyse this move and that. Isn't it clear to all and sundry? Its a new game, the goalposts have been moved and its up to people to try and work out where to.

<added>The problem is, to do so so publically is akin to giving your strategy blueprint to your competitors, and why would we do that? :( </added>
</semi rant>

[edited by: TravelMan at 9:38 pm (utc) on Sep. 29, 2004]

[tomasz]

I my field , I have to pay three times more for AdWords to be visible than I used to.
Google is business of making money and they do not care about free traffic, PR updates, and back links updates. This is public traded company now and they have to make money. It is only in they best interest to deliver low quality, keyword stuff pages with AdSence ads. cheers

[roadhazard]

Tomorrow is Oct. 1, the first day of the last quarter. I think if there is no PR update tomorrow, then we need to forget about "quarterly" PR updates and maybe forget about PR updates altogether as some of you are suggesting. My PR zero site is moving forward SLOWLY in the SERPS. If there are no quarterly updates, then I will go the Adwords path. How my site is moving forward in the SERPS is what I have to closely analyze. No one answers my recip link requests, even if I put THEIR link on my homepage.

[skunker]

Mr. Roberto,
I created my page on the end of August 25th. It was brand new...had a PR0 and now has a PR5. Sticky me if you'd like to see it for yourself. The PR, however, did not spread to my other pages.

[Nuttzy99]

Why is there an article on the front page of webmasterworld with the biline of "Google update that is almost 6 months overdue." It's more like 3.5 months, right?

-Nuttzy

[Tropical Island]

We added a new map page to our PR5 site in early Sept. and as of this morning it has a PR0. It will be a 4 or 5 when the PR is updated.