Subdomains trigger duplicate content?

Would google penalized?

[April]

Hi,

A simple question but may save my website from the wrath that is the google algorithm.

My site is 4 days old and all 60 pages of decent content are listed in google cache and listed in serps.

If the site was about "Widgets", then my pages are way back in serps for the term "Widgets", BUT for blue widgets, I am #1-20, also for red ones, purple ones, green ones etc. This is good and am over the moon, I put alot of hardwork into this site and took alot of advice off this forum to get to this stage.

Now, lets say that "Red Widgets" are the most popular, but I am listed on the second page and not getting optimal hits, yet "Lilac Widgets" are much less competative and I am #1......

So.... If the red widgets are on www.widgets.com/red_widgets.html would I be penalized for creating www.red.widgets.com which resloves to the same page, crosslinked? Or would I be much better off if I create a sort of 'Portal Page' SEO'ed for red widgets and a link to www.widgets.com/red_widgets.html or to just leave the idea totaly?

Sorry for waffling,

Cheers.

[Mr_Roberto]

Google indexes pages, not sites, so leaving your current structure of www.widgets.com/red_widgets.html is probably fine. If you create a subdomain with dup content, Google will likely drop either the subdomain or the red_widgets.html page because of the duplication (whichever has lower pagerank will be dropped).

[phaze]

Actually, whichever is older website will be seen as the definitive site. The other will be dropped. A recent experience:

Two domains are hosted on the same site. DomainA is the older and had it's own unique content. DomainB gets a LOT of traffic and is newer with way more backlinks. I accidentally pointed DomainA to DomainB's content and DomainA picked up DomainB's pagerank and DomainB's pagerank dropped to 0. I've posted the full story in this forum, but it's on admin hold for some reason.

[Raymond]

If google drop dup pages based on pagerank, I can probably trash all my competitors by next week. :)

[April]

I also thought that.... If I had a PR5 domain, and then just mirrored my competitor who was PR4 - I would get them dropped - Far too easy!

Ive decided to leave my site as it is, because www.widgets.com/red_widgets.html is doing quite well and just dont want to wreck things!

Just a short quaestion... My site around a week or two old now.... Day one and two google visitied my index, code 200, and left... day 3 it crawled all 50-60 pages and were indexed and cached within 36 hours, now for the past week or so just visited the index page daily!

Normal? Just 1 deep crawl in almost 2 weeks?

I have around 2x PR5 backlinks,
5x PR 4
and maybe another 5 PR0 - 3.

The site is a plain white PR bar, no ranking, but at least not grey!

Backlinks are growing on their own at about 1-2 a day.. and about 2 pages a day are beign added with unique content, which in turn maked the index page unique (i.e. latest 10 colour widgets added).

Thanks for yer help!

[Raymond]

April, you are really lucky. I remember when I was working on my first website, it took 1 month for the deepbot to crawl and another 3 to 4 weeks to get indexed. The backlinks didn't registered in 4 months and I waited almost 6 months to get my PR.

[April]

wow, that is harsh....

I am quite lucky that the industry I am in seem to welcome my site and hence some top quality back links from day 1!

I'm just KICKING myself so hard! The page is 100% ASP driven, even the titles and meta tags, but I made a fatal mistake by not putting the "Red Widgets" in the title for each category.. More like "Things that go in the bottom of cans", far to vague.

The second after I saw my indexed pages I noticed this mistake and am now waiting for the next deep crawl.... I'm checking my logs about 6 times a day :S

DMOZ is my next target :)