How long for new pages..

to show a pagerank?

[Mr_Roberto]

After three months I still have pages that show a zero pagerank on the toolbar (they were in the google serps long ago). What is the duration of the sandbox? Has anyone had recent pages showing pagerank?

[HarryM]

From my own experience I don't think we should pay too much attention to toolbar PR. It doesn't reflect the real PR. Although it would be good to see it updated, if only (as others have mentioned) as an aid in getting links. I'm still stuck with one of my link pages showing a toolbar PR0.

A few weeks ago I added about 30 pages to my site (three groups). The downside was it took Google about two weeks to start crawling them, even though each group was linked to from the index page. Google now seems to crawl pages quite haphazardly. Even though it several times took the changed index page, it has continued to gobble up my old pages and it still hasn't crawled all the new pages.

However the upside was that the new pages it did crawl showed up as PR0 in a few days and were immediately showing in serps at the position I would expect them to be (Typically in the first 4, although in a specialist area). I can only assume that PR doesn't matter anymore, or the pages have been given a higher PR than the one that shows in the toolbar.

[Freedom]

Whether or not the PageRank reflected in the toolbar is accurate or not - is not the point most people are trying to make here.

The point many people here are trying to make, to repeat this for clarity, is that it is hard to find link partners/attract new link partners when their content and link pages are PageRank zero.

I've also heard it hear on WebmasterWorld, a whisper, a rumor, mentioned in passing, that GoogleGuy said a long time ago that the toolbar PR was going to move to a quarterly update. Every 3 months.

The last update was June 23 - so that should make the next toolbar update fairly soon - if GG wasn't blowing smoke up our...

Can anyone confirm this rumor? Did GG really say that?

[HarryM]

The point many people here are trying to make, to repeat this for clarity, is that it is hard to find link partners/attract new link partners when their content and link pages are PageRank zero.

I agree, as you can see from my first paragraph. I would like to see a toolbar update precisely because if this.

The rest of my post was intended to show that, apart from the above, toolbar PR is of little relevance. IMHO still a point worth making.

[billygg]

i agree with harrym, yes, i would love to see a PR update, but, its not the end all. to many of you guys complain about loosing revenue, and not making enough money because of google and sandboxing, if u were smart, u would build some ppc campaigns, that pay out. as long as your roi is positive, u should be fine. never look at one source, or it will be the end for u :). google is just another company doing its job, making it a challenge, which is why this job is what it is.(just my 2 cents).

[Nuttzy99]

We're all desperate to have this update. I'm sorry but the 6th grader inside me keeps telling me to make a new thread that says "New Google PR update today!" with a "Gotcha!" on the inside. Of course I know if someone else tried that then I'd want them dead, so I'll exercise some restraint ;-)

-Nuttzy

[UK_Web_Guy]

What if google never updates PR again and removes the little green bar from the tool bar?

[Mr_Roberto]

What if google never updates PR again and removes the little green bar from the tool bar?

You would have a lot of miffed webmasters who are selling links from high-PR sites.. their market would be reduced to only the smarter SEOs who could analyze and determine the value of the link, and those who felt the actual click traffic from the link was worth the cost (ie. traditional advertising).

[billygg]

if google is going by the 3 month rule, PR should be starting to update in 3 days

[funandgames]

Reading these various posts it seems Google has been having serious trouble updating anything these days. They better get on the ball.