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wardbekker

5:57 pm on Apr 6, 2002 (gmt 0)

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from slashdot:

philipx writes "From the ruby-talk archives here's a little interesting snippet from a post you have to check out: "Here at Google, we're about to start offering an API to our search-engine, so that people can programmatically use Google through a clean and clearly defined interface, rather than have to resort to parsing HTML." It goes on talking about SOAP and I think this is utterly cool."

url : [ruby-talk.org...]

lazerzubb

6:07 pm on Apr 6, 2002 (gmt 0)

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Very intresting, i can ping the server, but i can't access it (via a browser).

This is the future, according to many people i have spoken with, personalised results.

Brett_Tabke

8:16 pm on Apr 6, 2002 (gmt 0)

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Interesting news. Will have to watch how this develops.

<- off rereading all that soap stuff I've been ignoring.

Josk

10:35 pm on Apr 6, 2002 (gmt 0)

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[ruby-talk.org...]

(API to connect to google server, so WPG isn't used)

Now that would make life easier...

mark_roach

6:24 am on Apr 7, 2002 (gmt 0)

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>Very intresting, i can ping the server, but i can't access it (via a browser).

I get the message:

SOAP RPC Router
Sorry, I don't speak via HTTP GET- you have to use HTTP POST to talk to me.

Looks like it may well be a subscription service. Perhaps they will make it available to META search engines.

Rup

6:12 pm on Apr 7, 2002 (gmt 0)

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Forgive me if I don't make perfect sense here, but is this Google API discussion about potentially searching the Google database (similar to the normal Google web site), but you have control over how the results are displayed (ie. plain text, etc.)? I've read through many of the links and I'm still not sure exactly what everyone is talking about here.

I guess I want to know if this is something like I described above, and if it's a subscription service would it be available to the normal user or if the cost to use this will be $1000's per month.

It sure would be nice to write an automated script that would check all this update information without having to parse out all the HTML (and not violating Google's terms of service). Is this Google API stuff along those lines?

I'm not the most knowledgable about this type of stuff, but it really sounds interesting. Thanks for any clarification (and links to more info if that is allowed).

Brett_Tabke

8:53 pm on Apr 7, 2002 (gmt 0)

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You got the 'gist of the situation Rup (btw: welcome to the forums).

There wasn't enough info in the original blurb to know what Google has in store for the feature. It could be something strictly for partner sites. It could require cookies, milk, and logins. It could end up behind secured access lines. It could include advertising mixed in. We just don't know.

We do know it's Google.

grnidone

9:55 pm on Apr 7, 2002 (gmt 0)



From: [w3.org...]


SOAP is a lightweight protocol for exchange of information in a decentralized, distributed environment. It is an XML based protocol that consists of three parts: an envelope that defines a framework for describing what is in a message and how to process it, a set of encoding rules for expressing instances of application-defined datatypes, and a convention for representing remote procedure calls and responses.

So...just to get a picture of this in my mind: you could have a program or daemon search the Google database instead of a human?

Brett_Tabke

10:03 pm on Apr 7, 2002 (gmt 0)

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Yes. That is what many have assumed it means. However, Ian didn't fill in any more details. Like the poper key and wsdl file. So, it appears access will be of a 'limited' nature.

Xoc

5:38 pm on Apr 8, 2002 (gmt 0)

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This should let you get your current listing rank (ala TopDog, WPG) without putting nearly as heavy a hit on Google. I wouldn't be surprised to see them limit this in various ways, including charging to use it, in the future.

jeremy goodrich

6:45 pm on Apr 8, 2002 (gmt 0)

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SOAP, hu? I have no clue....but if the price is right, I just might be interested in programming up a little daemon to do the dirty work for me.

Though, if the price is like $1000 per month or something, there is no way I'd do it. Subscription search data.

Haven't we had this idea 'round here before? (re: special access for position/rank checking, etc.)

Looks like somebody is listening. Also, sounds a little similar to the dedicated cluster that Goverture put together, so the bots to change bids would have a different place/way to do thier business.

Interesting. Will have to learn more, perhaps, when I know the time is right.

paulrollo

4:32 pm on Apr 11, 2002 (gmt 0)

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Noticed a new group (10th April) in the google.public hierarchy for the purpose of discussing "Google Web APIs beta service". No discussion yet which confirms exactly what it's about, anyone know? Is it related to this SOAP discussion?

Allergic

7:47 pm on Apr 11, 2002 (gmt 0)

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Here Paulrollo :
[google.com...]

paulrollo

8:38 pm on Apr 11, 2002 (gmt 0)

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Thanks Allergic, nice one. Did you guess the URL or is it being discussed somewhere else?

ggrot

9:21 pm on Apr 11, 2002 (gmt 0)

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If anyone wants soap in PHP, check this out:
[dietrich.ganx4.com...]

Havent tried it yet, but it looks good.