Link campaign penalty

[matrix_neo]

I have hired a a person for link development and this particular site is more than one and half year old and also another site new and fully crawled. This person has collected 3000 plus potential link partners and sent out link request this month and we had 30% success rate. So 800 links for each site ranging from pr1 to pr4. Now sand box will be triggered for sure? If so what will be the effect on my old and new sites? Is there any chance of penalisation? However I have not done anything wrong.

[Imaster]

Sorry, semi-penalty would be a little harsh, you can term it well, hmm, sandbox ;)

Suppose Google wants to make things more difficult for SEOs, what does it do?

- Screw its backlink tool (but Google doesn't realise that there are other better sources to determine backlinks hence this step was really unnecessary)

- Try to discourage SEOs who used to promote sites overnight by acquiring loads of links. I guess Google now determines the rate of acquired links which enables them to determine whether a site is a legitimate one which has acquired links naturally as opposed to a SEO promoted site.

Thus I guess it would be best to acquire links in the most natural way possible to avoid creating a trigger.

[dirkz]

Maybe there is no sandbox and it's all about the structure of incoming links ...

[matrix_neo]

Can you please shed some light on that? What would be ideal incoming link structure? Or you simply mean links from various sites and not many links from one site? Or do you speculate with blogs, forums, guestbook, unrelated sites, authority sites, newsgroups and more?

[dirkz]

> Or you simply mean links from various sites and not many links from one site?

That's one of the musts I think.

[rj87uk]

300 visitors per day isnt good, That site should get around 3000 to 5000 per day by now.

As for incomming links, I think you should get links directly into your content, change your keyword text often ( for the first few months ) This way I think it looks normal, and it also helps deep pages get crawled more often, and helping people coming to your site for the specifics instead of going to your home page they are at the info they want!

rj

[Webdetective]

I think if Google suddenly sees you have a few thousand new links, they might suspect you joined a linksfarm.

[dirkz]

> I think if Google suddenly sees you have a few thousand new links, they might suspect you joined a linksfarm.

Quantity alone shouldn't trigger anything (I guess there are news out there that gather this number of links in only a short time).

[HarryM]

Let me run this up the flag pole and see who gets out his Kalashnikov...

A 'natural' quality site will probably have acquired over time a mix of links from high PR pages and links from very low PR pages, probably including blogs, low PR hobby site link pages, and even PR0 pages.

An 'unnatural' SEO'd site will probably have proportionally far fewer links from low PR pages because the webmaster has been concentrating on getting the high PR links.

Perhaps Google is looking at the mix of links, possibly even prioritizing the low PR ones. These are after all real votes for the site, while high PR links may be real or artificial.