Dulicate sites Merge with no connection

backlinks and all

[Crush]

I had a site that got a penalty and waited for 5 months and it did not return to the index. I kept the old site online and bought a new domain, copied the content and got some links to start promoting it again. Now the old site has backlinks showing and no pr but the strange thing is that the new site has exactly the same. Google has merged them. They have different IP's and are not linked in anyway but have the same backlinks and seen as one. Spooky. Any reasons why?

[diamondgrl]

What kind of content? If you got the penalty based on your content and simply transfered your content, why would you find it weird that Google would still disapprove?

[sit2510]

How about your whois info of the 2 sites, especially the name server?

[Crush]

The first site was penalised for cross linking and not the content. Now the site is merged with a mirror site on a different url with no connection between the two. So the senario is, I could copy your content get a few links and google merges them

[Crush]

Different name servers

[sit2510]

>>> So the senario is, I could copy your content get a few links and google merges them

No, I don't think so. One of my sites was totally hi-jacked including the link pages, but Google does not merge the two.

In your case, I find it very weird. I think there must be some unknown connection(s) somewhere between your two sites that trigger Google to merge them.

[cabbie]

>>>>Google has merged them. They have different IP's and are not linked in anyway but have the same backlinks and seen as one. Spooky. Any reasons why?

This has happened to me a few times.It is one way to hijack a site.Of course if you change the content of the original and google lifts the ban off it, it will again see them as different sites.

[Crush]

Of course if you change the content of the original and google lifts the ban off it

How far do you need to go cabbie? I had this site done in 8 languages at great expense. Are you talking a few characters on each page or the everything?

[Crush]

Maybe a 301 from one the original to the other?

[cabbie]

>>>How far do you need to go cabbie?

i am not sure what you mean Crush.Do you mean how much to change before google seees it as a different site?
A 301 redirect would be a decent bet.

[Crush]

The original site has all the backlinks but it also has/had the penalty. The new ones has the backlinks but as a result of being merged with the old domain.
SO I mean 301 the old to the new? Well only one way to find out I guess.