Did I miss the PR update?

[bears5122]

Haven't been paying much attention to PR but did notice some sites from 2-3 months ago that I made with good links still have a PR0. Is Google really behind on a PR update or am I just totally off?

[ljgsites]

The last update was around the 14th of July. I hope the next one comes this week but it might not be until the end of the month or begining of next.

Cheers!

[bts111]

I am pretty sure that the last update was on the 23rd of June.

I wish the new one would come on soon.

[dvduval]

Yes, June 23rd is right. There was a backlink update in mid July, but there was no visible pagerank update. To the best of my knowledge, this is the longest Google has gone without updating pagerank in quite some time.

[webnewton]

23rd june is right. Why's google taking too long this time? Somethign major around this time i guess.

[kaled]

Perhaps Google are no longer concerned to update toolbar PR since a lot of webmasters are now using the Firefox extension. Many webmasters are of the opinion that the toolbar PR is at best an out-of-date copy of the real thing. Indeed, if it can remain unchanged after a backlink update, I would say the theory was proven.

Kaled.

[experienced]

My site is having more than 200 pages and all are having 4 but home page is only 2 PR :( How long this will take in updation of the home page PR

[Trax]

I can't wait for it to appear.
I want this update and I want it now ;).

[oaktown]

Could G be leaving the update on the back-burners while they concentrate on the IPO issues? If they're stretched THAT thin for manpower, maybe they need to just bite the bullet and bring more warm bodies onboard;)

[Freedom]

If they have to put the pagerank update on the back burners while facing an IPO then they are woefully unprepared to become a public company.

[powerofeyes]

SO how many of us feel Google ***** without a Pagerank update, Pagerank and backlink update is one important place where google made webmasters and SEOs entertained, We know Pagerank is just an other factor in google algorithm but it made many webmasters entertained, I personally love Google search and its toolbar because of the green thing on it, I make more than 250 unique queries per day and I love watching the variation of the green in the Toolbar on various sites,

I recently trashed Google toolbar and installed yahoo toolbar since No Pagerank update happened and no change in the green of the toolbar, ill definetely install it back if i see a pagerank update, Only advantage Google Toolbar has over any other toolbar is the Green display on it, I hope Google doesnt forget Pagerank is the important PR(Public Relations) Tool for them, We know Google has the updated Pagerank for all the indexed sites out there, Just that they are not willing to bring it public doesnt look good,

Already they lost a lot of webmaster traffic due to the messing up of the backlink command(link:), If they think SEOs and webmasters are not important to them then they can do what ever they like, I just want to say one thing, Webmasters and SEOs are some of the most important Public relations for google, If they dont realise it then they might loose all their traffic to MSN and Yahoo who are ready to bring in Innovative ideas to attract webmasters/site owners and SEOs,

We love watching the Green Bar and show us what we love Google, Dont hide an excellent Public relation tool, We know you are in the IPO problem but make webmasters who watch the Green Bar Happy, Go for a Pagerank update please :-)

[drift82]

If you were high up at Google and posed to be making millions if nothing goes wrong, would you let your engineers run a PR update? And for what, to appease a few thousand SEO's who would make a pitifully small percentage of your IPO? Money talks people. I for one can't wait for this IPO and a nice PangeRank update.

[nalin]

Already they lost a lot of webmaster traffic due to the messing up of the backlink command(link:), If they think SEOs and webmasters are not important to them then they can do what ever they like, I just want to say one thing, Webmasters and SEOs are some of the most important Public relations for google, If they dont realise it then they might loose all their traffic to MSN and Yahoo who are ready to bring in Innovative ideas to attract webmasters/site owners and SEOs

I hate to break it to you - but that can do whatever they like.

In the end each and every engine should cater to the individuals searching and specifically not to those trying to manipulate the results (and no matter how good or relevant your site if you practice SEO then you are manipulating the results).

When said manipulation starts to effect the integrity of the serps in a negative manner then google has little choice other then further shrouding its results and process in mystery. If this means that the green bar is almost three months behind (which it is indeed for a handful of pages on one of my sites), or that backlinks are obscured so be it (as an aside the pr or backlinks as formerly reported by toolbar and link: command are poor guesses at best post hilltop - hilltops idea of pr and linkweight is specific to the query whereas toolbar PR and link do not account for the query).

MSN and Yahoo can be as ready as they like to bring inovative ideas - one is run by a parasitic (the antithesis of inovative) monopoly who has yet to write a browser that fully supports css or png or enable tabbed browsing, from the perspective of the webmaster they have a track record of making things exponentially more difficult. The other company I dont necessarily dislike but their name has not derived into a term synonomous with web search, nor do they have the market share of the big G.

My allegiance as a webmaster is certainly not to the company who most easily allows the manipulation of its results - because by nature these results will be crap and therefore largly unused. Rather I favor the engine which holds the greatest market share - a year ago anyone trying to optimize for MSN would have been severly missing the mark, and the only reason this has changed today is because of the similarity between the algorithms and data used by Y and MSN.

[dvduval]

There are a lot of quality sites that are 6 months old that are not listed in Google, because they haven't updated the PageRank and have the sandbox effect in place.

I was pleasantly surprised when I started using Yahoo for searches this week. The results are not cluttered as previously, and most importantly, the content is fresh. I believe I will take your advice, and try the Yahoo toolbar for a while.

[bears5122]

Google fails to realize that a large portion of their toolbar users are strictly using it for PR. Do you know how many searches I've made just because I had the toolbar and it was easiest? Thousands. I've probably clicked on hundreds of ads as well.

The fact is that Google doesn't provide very good results anymore. They don't run the best search engine, nor provide the best results. If they can't update the PageRank, then their toolbar is worthless to me. I'll simply install a toolbar with a search engine that brings good results.

[oaktown]

"If you were high up at Google and posed to be making millions if nothing goes wrong, would you let your engineers run a PR update?"

Good point! But following that line of reasoning, it seems to lead to a tacit admission that the organization is incapable of simultaneously preparing for the IPO AND conducting the normal, ongoing business processes. My question is "Why NOT let your engineers run a PR update?"

I wish nothing but the best for Google and hope that all this discussion on our part is just nervous energy being expended and not the result of serious flaws in G's organizational structure. I would think that with an IPO coming up shortly, this is when a company would most certainly want everything to proceed normally, following established patterns, and that would include updates even if they do not occur at precise, scheduled intervals.

[powerofeyes]

Google fails to realize that a large portion of their toolbar users are strictly using it for PR.

I agree 100%, Google's toolbar is nothing special than any other toolbar, Most of the people out there use Google's Toolbar just for Pagerank, If google thinks Toolbar Pagerank update is not important then so be it, I am not against Google in any way, i love google and all its efforts,
As a Normal active google user for all my personal needs i want Google to grow and I want their important Toolbar Pagerank to be updated atleast once a month, It makes so many site owners/webmasters/SEOs happy,

When said manipulation starts to effect the integrity of the serps in a negative manner then google has little choice other then further shrouding its results and process in mystery.

i agree Pagerank is highly vulnerable and can be easily exploited, But google has so many other ways to tackle this why do they have to delay Toolbar pagerank update so much, They know most of the Google Toolbar users are passionate towards Pagerank, So why dont they make them happy, I feel Oncoming IPO is the main reason for it,

Toolbar Pagerank is never accurate especially for dynamic URLs, Mostly we see the Green in the Toolbar just for the fun of it, So make the site owners and most of the toolbar users happy that is what we ask from google,

[jo1ene]

the content is fresh

Yahoo? They have been spidering my web site a little here and there but mostly have the old pages still in the SERPs. It's been a few months now. I know the spider hit these pages. Wassup?